Sunday, October 26, 2008

LA Times Freelancer Loves Bones

Freelance writer David Tischman has a great article in the LATimes on Bones. He loves most everything about the show, but talks heavily on Booth and Brennan. Guy or not, he's a definite 'shipper, but is wary that any crossing over the 'line' might ruin the wonderful friendship.

Yes, the sexual tension hangs heavy, and everyone knows Booth and Brennan want to do it, Sam-and-Diane style -- but series creator Hart Hanson also writes an adult male-female friendship that is wonderful and special without being precious.

Brennan and Booth try to explain away the respect and concern they feel for each other as something simple -- they're partners, like Mulder and Scully -- but "Bones" gives us the first on-screen pairing that makes you think and gives you pause; if they do have sex, will it ruin the friendship?
What do you think? Will it ruin the friendship?

28 comments:

Heirofloki said...

Only if they rush into it -Which is why I don't mind the roadblocks quite so much. If (when) they go there, they've got to be sure of what they want and what they're doing, because right now they've got too much to lose; they've become too emotionally attached and actually seem very much aware of that. In fact, for them to get together, I think the risks of a relationship would have to be clearly outweighed by the benefits. In other words, they would have to be facing a fear greater than the fear of losing the relationship they currently have.

Anonymous said...

isn't one of life's goals to marry/commit to your best friend? being friends is at the heart of any good relationship! wish we were all so lucky, the divorce rate would be a lot lower:)

Jeannie said...

Who are Sam and Diane?

Lily said...

Well i think that it might ruin their friendship b/c if it doesn't go well then it will be hard for them to work with each other. Do u guys remember from the 1st episode when Pritchard tells Bones about Mt.Everest when she's walking to her car. I asked someone what she meant their and that's what they told me b/c i really didn't understand what she said. She tells her not to climb Mt. Everest, which means not to have sex with Booth. So that means that it wouldn't be good to have a relationship with him b/c Pritchard knows how it is to have a relationship with a partner b/c she had a relationship with Ian and he dies. Ummmm....that's what i think but i don't no if it all makes sense. it would be sad to see them separate just b/c they took that next step...but hopefully things do go well when they do take that next step. We'll have to wait and see.

Jeannie said...

Lily, I actually think she told Brennan NOT to forego Mt. Everest, aka to go for it.

Shep said...

As DB is so fond of saying, they are pretty much married 'they just haven't consummated the relationship yet'. I think Hart wants to prolong them having sex as long as possible so as not to rush and possibly ruin things. They already are the best of friends and the best of partners and it's only a short way to realising that their feelings for each other are more than platonic. I think when they do realise it, they will take it slow because there is already that intense bond of friendship, trust and fierce protectiveness there.

brennanite said...

I think that they think it is all or nothing. That is why they are both so hesitant to go there. They are afraid that if it doesn't work out, they will lose everything they have now. But I don't think this is actually true. I think if things didn't work out, that they would find a way to deal with it.

And for Jeannie: Sam and Diane were characters in a very popular, long-running 80s sitcom called Cheers. They were an opposites-attract on again off agian couple.

serinde said...

Will it or won't ruin their frendship?- I' like not to discuss it. I have mixed feelings- i think after they realize their love there won't be good old Bones anymore. It can lack the chemistry. That's why I don't really look forward to see them together(ok, maybe a little bit). I love yhe show as it is now. Friendship is also a beautiful thing. But, on the other hand, it all goes in this direction, and sooner or later we and them have to face it- it will be funny, i think.

I'm really sorry for any mistakes- Engish is foreign language for me.

Lily said...

Thanks Jeannie, that's what i told my friend and she was like no...that means not to go for it. So is that y Bones was like Ian is died....and then Pritchard was like that's not the only person I'm referring to...so she meant Booth? So she's telling her to have sex with him?

Irina said...

I think that the beautiful friendship they have now cannot go on, it's not a perfect friendship because they have such strong feelings for each other, they can't really be comfortable, right?
IDK, that's my opinion, SOMETHING has to happen, even if it's just one night and then they decide nothing can happen etc, like Hart suggested.
Ah, just writing this made me want to see Bones even more! Two weeks!

Milky said...

What's the difference between friendship and romantic relationship?
I personally think you can have a wonderful friendship without having 'romantic' feelings for your friend, but you can't have a wonderful relationship if there's no friendship there. But, what is it that makes it different?

I don't know the answer to that, but I think being able to manage what the 'romantic' adds to a relationship is really important to doing it great.

So, I think they do want to add the 'romantic' to their friendship, but they're afraid they won't be able to manage the change and, in failing, they'll lose it all. Right? To risk it, I think they have to be stubborn enough (and they ARE) to keep trying and not feeling defeated when the adjustment issues arise. I think they also need to be conscious enough to know when it's a real problem and when they're just bickering-- which I think they'd manage. And, of course, they have to love each other so it's worth it.

So, yes-- what are they waiting for? LOL. They're just afraid.

Anyway... 'adjustment issues' CAN be complicated. I think that's the biggest problem one can see.

Anonymous said...

Didn't ruin my friendship with my now husband and we were 'platonic' best friends for 3 and a bit years before anything happened. No, it won't ruin it... c'mon fictional characters who I care about far too much, just kiss already. ;-D

Anonymous said...

They have the trust and the friendship so love is the next step. Of course, they will work it out. No matter that there will be roadblocks, these two deserve to show their love.

I am way too invested in them as well and it's not good enough that they leave it on the friendship only level. There is too much touching going on for that. They invade each others space constantly and "just partners" don't do that.

I am not for a one night stand at all. They will have problems no doubt, but they have always worked things out in their partnership. They can do it in their love.

Sam and Diane in the old "Cheers" show did have chemistry but they really didn't have love. They just taunted each other. A very different situation here.

Brennan and Booth learn from each other, comfort each other and protect each other. So different from other couples with just chemistry based on sex.

They have love. And we need to see the culmination of that love.

Mella said...

sadly I think it will . And I don't want that to happen so I'm thinking, let them be friend , don't cross the line

katjem said...

I think they can and will take their relationship to the next level and when they do it will work out just fine. They wont rush into anything (clearly evident) and they wont take the next step until they are both ready. Booth may need to retract his little speech about people not dating who work together in high pressure situations because I think Brennan follows his lead sometimes. Gosh ... you think we are talking about real people and not tv characters. Is that a sign of obsession? LOL

Milky said...

It is, Katjem.
But it is ok to be obsessed!

RMF said...

It's funny that the author compares Booth and Brennan to Nick and Nora Charles, a famous married detective couple in the movies. Nick and Nora banter and flirt very amusingly, and there's no loss of tension or entertainment in their pairing. It argues that it is possible to transition a couple from friends to lovers without messing up the interactions that make them interesting. I've seen many TV series based on UST go south once the couple gets together, and it's usually ascribed to the chase being intrinsically more interesting than the aftermath, but I'm not sure that that isn't because the writers are out of ideas anyway. Such series usually go south regardless, even if they're not consummated, because it eventually becomes ridiculous that they haven't gotten together, and the writers run out of reasons to keep them apart. It would be nice to see a TV series get it right for a change, by recognizing that the leads don't become different people or insta-boring just because they're together. I don't think Booth and Brennan would stop having their conversations about faith versus rationality or any of the other old chestnuts.

On another note, the author really does rake Sweets over the coals for being a weak character device. FWIW, I agree with him that they don't use Sweets very well. Those therapy sessions are a substitute for more complex writing that would lead the characters to reveal themselves situationally.

Stephanie said...

As long as the writers keep Booth and Brennan, the characters, as they are, I think they'll be fine. If their personalities suddenly do a 180 and they start agreeing on everything and whatnot, than yeah, getting together will ruin it, but as long as they keep Brennan Brennan and Booth Booth, I don't think there will be a problem with them being romantic. They'll still disagree all the time, they'll still bicker about everything they can think of, and at the end of the case, they'll still have their sweet little moments that we all love so much, just with a little bit more romance thrown in.

I kinda agree with David when he says they're basically already a couple, just without the physical aspect. I think with these characters, since they've already acknowledged they're in a surrogate relationship, the actual romantic part of their relationship is just going to be kind of a natural progression, not some huge, bad, show-changing event.

Moshe said...

I actually do think it would ruin their friendship. I'm quite happy just watching them flirt on the screen.

Anonymous said...

I agree that if they do get together, it can still be interesting, but pray that the writers don't constantly put obstacles in their path - sometimes that is what makes people switch off, not the fact they are together - frog eating clones in Lois and Clark / Sydney's time jump in Alias anyone? I think the writers on this show have shown they have the quality to still make it interesting. Actually having a committed couple together would actually be pretty groundbreaking...

The worst 3 things writers do when a long-time UST pair get together are to rip them apart/put them back together constantly, milk the relationship for far too long for ratings,so you've lost interest by the time they do get together and the other one is to ignore it completely when they do kiss and show the viewer absolutely no heat at all. Boring!

BT said...

I am finally delurking to comment because ths is something that I feel really strongly about. I am a girl who is very close friends with a guy - we're inseparable to the extent that people have been calling us "Scully and Mulder" for years (and now Booth and Bones).

We used to love Bones but actually have found the third and the fourth season really disappointing to the point where I'm not sure I'll be watching it for too much longer. The reason why: well firsty we've both worked in labs for years, and we identified with the squints and the humour (and yes, Planaria are cute!) and the general tone of the show. As time went on it became less about the other people and mre and more about Booth and Bones.

That's fine, i can live with that, but then the cases got less and less interesting, and the entire story began to verge n a soap opera. I don't watch Grey's Anatomy because I have no desire to watch a soap opera that occasionally has a tumour (it's always a tumour...) thrown in to make it appear medical. I find it hard to watch ones because I have no desire to watch what used to be an excellent show dssolve into a soap opera.

After all that ranting, to the point: Booth and Bones might end up together, you never know, but at the mooment I feel like it's pushing too hard. Their friendship is really great and I identify with it a lot, although after almost 7 years there is nothing romantic going on between me and my counterpart, I understand the amazing friendship that people of different sexes can have, despite all the conjecture that it stirs up. The show pushing and pushing - I find that I lose interest in the relationship, it should grow naturally.

Look at Mulder and Scully, it was 7 seasons before anything happened but watching their relationship grow so naturally over the course of the show was what (to me) made it such a landmark. I get the feeling that the producers and the writers are listening to the fans a little bit too much, and they should try and recapture the spirit of what used to be one of the best shows on tv.

And for crying out loud, let them be friends (nothing Just about it) for now. Think about them in a relationship. Besides argung over religion (which gets old fast, trust me) and work (which we should try to leave at work) and their various dysfunctional relationships with family members, what exactly do they have to talk about?

I'm sorry if this comes out ranty and nasty, I really didn't mean for it to get this long either. It's jsut that knowing how incredibly special friendship lke theirs can be, I find that it feels cheapened by the incessant "kiss her! KISS HER!!!"

Anonymous said...

Interesting view, Bt.. although you are projecting a bit of yourself in B&B. Booth and Brennan never had a real friendship. They have been attracted to each other since day one, and now they just keep it to friendship level NOT because they are really just friends, but because something (actually someone.. Hanson) is holding them back.

If a frindship is only a friendship, then does not need to evolve. But in their case the romantic spark has always been there and honestly they cannot drag the relationship like that for long.

Just wanted to say that romance might ruin a friendship, but if a friendship is just a cover up for stronger feelings and desires, then it will not last anyway, one way or the other it will end because it is an unsustainable situation. So, better to risk to save friendship AND getting a great love than bedestined to lose the friendship anyway, because it was never such a thing.
Yssel

ADDhole said...

Yssel, makes an incredibly insightful point. It really never has been a friendship but always some degree of "chemistry" and posturing. But, I think that the connection; the tediously built and tested and refined trust, and the ability to rely upon each other would be lost if "the line" were crossed. It seems that it may be bent a great deal - just not crossed. Brennan would likely continue to function just fine after friendship transitioned to something more than conjugal visits (and even fell apart and crashed and burned) but I think it would be impossible for Booth to continue to work together. I don't think his reticence would be so much out of being emotionally bruised but more that not having the tension and mystery of the what-if would take away his enthusiasm. I have no doubt he genuinely believes he loves her . . . I'm pretty sure he would realize, after the fact, that he would change his mind.

Anonymous said...

Guys I think you are missing the point of the article, read the last line.

''So let Brennan and Booth have sex, if it all goes wrong after that, they can handle it - and so can we.''

It is actually saying that they should hookup, they are mature adults, if is goes wrong, they can deal with it, at least they can say that they gave it a try and so can the fans. Jmo :D

CupcakeBean said...

This is quite the discussion! I can see things from multiple points of view. As much as I want to see Booth and Brennan take a huge leap in their relationship, I'm leery of what might happen. For example, I loved Hodgins and Angela's playful flirting in the beginning. Hodgins' constant attempts to woo Angela were adorable and sweet. Unfortunately, once they got together, they became stagnant and boring. Neither one retained their original personalities while they were together. They seemed to lose all their chemistry once they were in a relationship. I don't know whether to blame the Strike or the writers or the actors, but whatever the reason, Hodgela was DULLSVILLE!

That said, I don't see the same happening to Booth and Brennan, if it is done right. I would like to see a major step forward in their relationship, such as a kiss or maybe even an eventual sexual encounter. They would, of course, have no idea how to deal with this new aspect of their relationship. Conflict and mayhem would ensue. To me, this would be a logical way to move them forward, but not lose that "spark" we all love so much. We would still get the wonderful "will they, won't they?" aspect. Plus, we could all still analyze the hell out of everything, like we do now! :D Just my opinion...

Shep said...

Yep, I'm all for the analysing. I agree with Yssel and I don't think HH will push the relationship - it will grow naturally, as it already is doing , but I just don't want them to stretch it too long. I have faith in the writers and just hope that the frigging network don't go all out in their hopes to draw in ratings and screw up any of those episodes so that we get one where they're smooching or going on a date and another where they're just friends! Then I will be really pissed off!

cordy said...

I'm agree that their (romantic)relationship should slowly evolve. But I also see the risk that if they take it too slow that they remain at some point and loose the spark and UST. If HH and the writers miss that point they will forever be "just partners" and friends.

Becky said...

It's true that Hodgela was
really boring and they did that thing that couples do: kissing all the time until it becomes annoying.
But the way Booth and Bones are,
they act like they've already done the deed.
I mean, they're always in eachother's space, and even if they can't see they'd be perfect for each other romantically, they can see they make the perfect team working together.
I think they should have sex to reassure Booth that Bones won't run away. He is very careful around her (see episode in which Sweets says that Bones can't be Gormogon because of her relationship with Booth and Booth says not to rush her), and if they had sex maybe he would be more confident that she wouldn't just dismiss him the way she does some men.

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