Monday, November 24, 2008

Strike Incoming?

We haven't really talked strike news in awhile, because, well, there hasn't been anything to say. The SAG members have been working without a contract since June 30th of this year, and it now appears that recent talks have completely broken down and, if not a full strike, a strike vote most certainly seems imminent.

I am completely behind the actors getting what they deserve. Many people think actors are all like George Clooney and Angelina Jolie - rich, in effect. But SAG has over 120,000 members, most of which are paid average wages, just like the rest of us and they deserve fair treatment and payment for the work they perform.

That said - do we really need another Bones season messed up? I hope they are able to work things out, but it does not look promising.

19 comments:

Jeannie said...

I agree, they actors should get what they deserve, especially in the light of the fact that acting seems to be a profession you don't really make a lot of money in anymore after you've surpassed the dreadful Hollywood age limit. It's a bit like being a professional athlete, I guess - they need to make their money while they are young.

But really? Another strike? Haven't the AMTPT learned ANYTHING from the writer's strike? This is going to hurt so many people again.

cat said...

oh, not again...

Lauren said...

And a strike is just what these actors need in the midst of our current economy. Awesome.

I really hope that they're able to work something out. Soon.

Lindsay said...

Honestly I understood the writers strike, they did not get nearly enough for the amazing jobs they do. But an actors strike? I do realize that not all actors make the millions that some make, but in an economy like we have at the present, they are making more then the average joe on the street. This will just make things worse. The entertainment industry lost so much money the last strike you would figure that BOTH sides would be willing to compromise in order to keep shows going and people employed. It seems a little selfish in my opinion of both sides of the issue.

Shep said...

I agree with Lindsay. In the midst of this economic turmoil, is a strike really going to benefit anyone? The actors will go a few more days without pay and we'll go a few more weeks without Bones! And here I was really hoping I'd be able to watch all of Season 4 before my VERY IMPORTANT EXAMS in May! Plus, we don't really want a repeat of the 'Zack' fiasco - that will not end well!

Lily said...

Yea...i really hope that they solve what ever problems they have because it would be horrible to have another season messed up again.....i really want to watch all the episodes they plan to take this season.....lets hope for the best....

mo said...

please dont mess up another season of BONES!!!! NOooooooooooooo!!

Stephanie said...

I agree that everyone involved, including actors, should get a cut of the new revenue being brought in from streaming video and internet sales, but I do not support this strike for one reason: the SAG is being offered the exact same deal the writers, directors, and other actors union all agreed to, and they refuse to accept it. The producers are the ones walking away from discussions, but the SAG leaders are being unreasonable. Do they really think they're going to get (or even deserve) a better deal than everyone else? I'm hoping the SAG members won't authorize it.

Wendy said...

I can see SAG's point though - those people didn't necessarily get a good deal, and even if it was good for another guild, that doesn't mean they speak for SAG, and what's right for them.

heirofloki said...

Sorry, but this is one strike I will not be supporting. I agree that the actors should get their dues and I know the congloms are made of greedy bastards who deserve their own pit in hell. That said, this is not the time. I live in LA and we are still trying to recover form the last one -a hard task given the worsening economic climate. This industry employs thousands of people not just actors, writers and directors. Drivers, Catering businesses, hair salons, restaurants, even security people...and we all suffered because of the last slowdown.

As for the strike as negotiation tactic...Really? The congloms and their fat cats won't suffer as much as we would want to believe. Sure, they might need to postpone their Fiji holidays and maybe give up that third Bentley. In the meantime thousands of people will be out of work, unable to pay tuition fees, mortgages and even food. I fear for my friends and my family. Seriously. Three years from now, we'll all strike together, but now? No.

Anonymous said...

as a bones fan, I have to say... NOOOO!!!!!!

and, too, as an economics major, I've got to say.... a SAG strike in this economy is NO GOOD for anyone involved. I'm 100% FOR the actors, and that's why I am 100% AGAINST a strike. the writer's strike had a $4 billion price tag ($20 million per day, by some estimates). we can expect just as big of a cost from a SAG strike. and, with the state of the economy (remember, 500,000+ jobs were lost in the month of october alone) there's no guarentee everything will get back on its feet. many of the already-rich actors will get their jobs back, but most of the ones who are already making paltry salaries can probably better practice the following line: "Do you want fries with that?" because they can expect to be out of a job and looking for work at McDonald's. in some aspects, television has been one of the few industries surviving the economic crisis, because more americans are watching television (due to stress and higher unemployment, among other factors). this actor's strike could have HUGE implications for a slumping economy -- it could cost the economy billions, and land many actors (and the production crews, writers, and rest of the cast of their shows/movies) in unemployment... not to mention the profits lost by networks spill over into lost advertising dollars, which spills over into many other sectors of the economy. there are lots of ways of looking at it, but all in all: it's just terrible timing, and if SAG has any sense, they will NOT strike.

NOT TO MENTION IT WOULD SCREW UP BONES AGAIN. (let's keep things in perspective here, haha). it's just all bad.

Anonymous said...

woah, woops, fact check: my previous post was supposed to say "250,000+ jobs" lost in october and NOT "500,000"

... things aren't THAT bad, folks. haha, sorry, please forgive me!! :) :)

Joy_Booth said...

Are you serious? *groans* not again...Last year's was bad enough...I mean yeah, I understood why they did it, but I thought they'd fixed everything! Gosh, Zack's story was CUT for crying out loud, and now...>< Geez. I hope they figure something out. The actors are going to suffer if they don't. Stupid economy...

cd3010 said...

weerl, if there is another strike, I don´t think TV will recover from that,... last year some shows barely made it, some are still trying to get a grip. Bones is only one that came out of the strike stronger then before,..
Well, I don´t think, if there is another strike, that there will be any good shows anymore, no one would want to risk, giving out contracts that are longer then, maybe one season, so where does that leave the actors, with even lees work, even less job stability,..even less movies or shows to work on, because reality TV is so much cheaper to produce and also getting good ratings *excusewhileIgothrowup*

So a strike now *again* would be like a bullet shot through your own foot,..

irininde said...

Oh come on!
Okay guys, so here's a tiny secret: I'm an actress. I live in Spain, and I'm in a TV show (it's called "Cor de la Ciutat" you probably havent heard of it). So anyway, I'm not even one of the major characters and this show isn't even that popular, but I get paid MORE THAN MY MOM who's a university teacher.
It can't be THAT BAD, surely, that one of the MAJOR networks in some of the most popular TV shows don't pay enough? I think the entire industry is pretty rich, and even though I think acting is a profession like any other and deserves a decent salary, I'm also pretty sure they get exactly that, and probably much more!
Please please please, not another year without Bones for so long? Pleeeease?

heirofloki said...

LOL Irinide, I actually have heard of your show. TV3 right? Congrats by the way!

Ms. Feasance said...

Actually...it's possible (a remote possibility)that a SAG strike wouldn't affect Bones.

WGA represents ALL writers--movies, TV, commercials, the whole enchilada. So if WGA strikes, everybody's out of work. However, the Actors' unions operate differently. SAG only represents film actors. AFTRA, on the other hand, represents all other performers. SAG and AFTRA overlap to the tune of 40,000 performers; however, AFTRA ultimately has jurisdiction over TV performances. If SAG strikes, the most they can ask is that production shut down on movies. On the other hand, it's possible that AFTRA will strike in solidarity with SAG, given how many of their members overlap.
And if AFTRA strikes, that's bigger than the WGA strike: that hits newsreaders and actors in commercials. AMPTP will have some angry ad buyers on their hands if they let that happen.

Also, it's true that reality TV is cheaper to produce, but it doesn't have "legs." People don't watch reality shows on TV and then buy the DVDs and treasure them forever. Do you remember what happened on Extreme Home Makeover on May 3, 2004? No? Neither do I. But on the other hand, people still buy DVDs of the tenth season of Friends, which aired about the same time, and they still watch the reruns in syndication, both of which continue to be sources of income for the writers, the actors, the production crew, and the AMPTP. (One of those groups makes more than the others. I'll leave you to figure out which one.) In supporting reality TV, the AMPTP's strategy is short-term only. It's the classic "do-you-want-a-quarter-now-or-a-dollar-later" scenario.

heirofloki said...

AFTRA won't strike to support SAG. Not after what happened earlier this year. That union made it pretty clear that they want to keep working. Even SAG is divided.

I am worried, even if we do get Bones (Which I'm not sure we would because even with dual membership, some actors may not wanna cross picket lines). Rental shops, grips, gaffers, set designers, casting directors, editors....it's still a lot of people. A strike would not be conscionable at this point time.

irininde said...

Hehe, thanks heirofloky!
I thought no one would have any idea what it is! lol
It's Booonesdaaay! (although I have to wait till tomorrow)

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