Thursday, December 4, 2008

Extreme Spoiler Talk: The Bones that Foam

Here is place to concentrate all the heavy spoiler talk (ie the major stuff from the sides, that most fans do NOT read) for The Bones that Foam. Feel free to post links in the comments, but I will keep the post free of them.

The point of this post is to keep the really heavy spoilers away from those who don't want to read them, not increase the spoiler focus here. Have fun!

24 comments:

Louise said...

Since this is the ep after the Booth-lite PitP, anyone think this might be the ep DB directs?

heirofloki said...

I'm pretty sure it is which has me pretty excited for it.

I'm also wondering, though: what is it about DB and strippers. LOL. Anyone remember Soul Purposed (Angel)? Spike also hits a strip club in that ep. For entertainment purposes only, of course, but the parallel stands...sorta. :P

heirofloki said...

Gah. Soul Purpose

Shep said...

DB and strippers - typical bloke!

Shep said...

Not that DB is your average guy. He's way above average!

Anonymous said...

Guys you do realize that David doesn't write the scripts. He is only directing. He and Emily are producers not writers, I very much doubt that he had to have a lap dancer in the epi. She isn't a stripper, and it isn't illegal to be one,why the judging tone when talking about one? When DB talked about the epi in Sep he didn't know what it was about only that he was directing it over Thanksgiving, can we give the guy a break, he isn't responsible for everything that happens on Bones.HH and Barry run the show!

Shep said...

Relax Anon, you're right but we're just joking around! :)

Louise said...

Yes, anon, we do know that. I just think it's amusing that it's the one episode that DB directs, and he gets to have a lap dance in it :)

I can just see it now ...
DB: "Hmm ... I think we should take that scene one more time ..."
ED: "DAVID!"

heirofloki said...

Uh, yes Anon, I have to agree with Louise and Shep. It was only a joke. I love, Love Soul Purpose, specially the beginning, and this reminded me of it -Except the drama here is gone and the exchange taking place is thoroughly amusing.

And I'm actually sorry you thought I was being judgmental of strippers 'cause as a trained dancer myself, I'm something of a fan. I mean, have you seen them dance?

Anonymous said...

Sorry guys! I can see that ya were all joking now and not judging! My bad! :D :D

I was just being over sensitive, guess cos it's DB epi and I just want it to be well recieved and cos I keep reading so much hoo-ha about a little old lap dance, that hasn't even been aired yet.

Hal said...

I always thought it was Hero in the Hold that Booth directed i don't know why i thought this,it just seemed the type of epi he would direct.
Does anyone else think that Booth seems to be letting a bit of rage out this season, when hes speeding in that car he is defo letting something go, its not his true nature to be reckless. Its hot!

Camilla said...

Where can I read these sides from the script? I would really love to read them.

Anonymous said...

Sides here Camilla:

http://community.livejournal.com/bones_spoilers

or

http://bonesspoilers.blogspot.com/

CanadianGirl said...

I live in Canada...so saw the episode last night (we still get them on Wednesdays)and I have to say...disappointing is my overall rating for this one. There were a few funny moments, but in general, it was far from a high calibre episode (nothing to do with DB directing...just not a great one).

cordy said...

I think that maybe after the 3-week-long abstinence we all expect a bit too much.
Yes you're right it wasn't a great episode. But wasn't bad either, they can not all be great ones. I think it was a solid epi, but definitely not one of my all-time favourites.

The case wasn't that spectacular, there where a few bugs in it, but also a lot funny scenes.

Jeannie said...

This was definitely not one of my favorite episodes, and I agree with Cordy, the 3-week-hiatus probably let expectations run way too high for any episode to meet. I also blame my opinion on "The Bones That Foam" partly on the fact that I seriously dislike N-M. I've tried to like him, really, but I simply cannot. I respect the effort to make him more likeable and show his "sensitive side" here but it didn't help much. Also, I found this to be way over the top. So he cannot focus without giving useless trivia but please, if he can't even focus enough to tell Cam where the foam originates he might need to consider a career change.

I actually thought that the case was interesting but it was "ruined" by the weird behavior of our lab rats. First, and I found this to be really irritating and distracting, why oh why is nobody wearing any protective gear??? Especially Cam should know better. Even after the biohazard alarm had gone off several times, nobody saw the need to protect themselves and others from that corpse even though they hadn't ruled out anything yet at that point. I understand that it makes for much less attractive TV to have beautiful people covered for an entire episode but please, then simply don't bring up storylines like that. It seriously annoyed me that the intern had to be the one to point out the lack of protective gear about 30 minutes into the episode.

And what was it with the multiple lockdowns? What kind of lockdown is that anyway, where people can simply leave because they annoy their boss? That was ridiculous. Just remember how serious they were about it in Man in the Fallout Shelter and how it meant nothing here, even though the bones kept foaming and there was no evident cause yet.

I seriously missed Angela during this episode but I liked her conversation with Brennan, especially the mentioning of Booth's deliberate playing dumb. It felt like a shoutout to the viewers to me since there have been lots of complaints about the so-called "dumbing down" of Booth. So I really liked that.

Brennan was strangely uninterested in the foaming bones, even though time was running out on them. Whatever.
As for the 'Brennan wants to do what Booth does' storyline, I feel we've gone over that numerous times already, including the realization that she is simply not a people's person and never will be. I found her pretty arrogant during this episode, with all her "I can do whatever you do, only better", and "You do know that I'm smarter than Booth" remarks. Even when she admitted at the end that he was better at interrogating, it felt like old news.

I wish they'd stop having BB constantly openly talk about sex. It's not that it offends me or anything but I seriously miss the double innuendos and subtle remarks. It feels as if they are ruining the entire surprise moment for themselves, the magic of the unknown, if you know what I mean. It feels as if all they have left to settle now is who sleeps on which side of the bed. But maybe that's what happens after 4 years of UST, that you have to talk these things out? I wouldn't know.

I also found the lapdance scene rather uncomfortable to watch. It always seems to me like "let's shove as many sex mentions as we can into one episode" these days. Can Brennan really be that dense?

Sorry for the rant. I realize I sound rather negative today although I like to believe that this is not my general attitude towards the show. I just didn't like this episode, but I'm curious to see what other people got out of it. Sometimes it helps improving my opinion of an epi.

heirofloki said...

Jeannie: I actually found the lapdance to be laughably tame (as lapdances tend to be in network tv). No to mention how clothed those girls were. It was actually kind of distracting, in the sense that I went "Really?"

As for Brennan saying that she can do anything better that Booth/Is smarter than him, I didn't think it was out of place because really, Brennan has always been dependent on self-validation. It actually says more about her character and how she handles insecurity than it says about Booth. The fact that he lets her have that (and that others DO notice) is what makes their entire relationship work. So yeah, I loved both the convo with Angela and the reluctant admission in the end. Because though it might be old news to us, it's not to them, particularly to Booth (who actually had to push the admission right out of Brennan).

I enjoyed the ep for what it was: Harmless fun. It wasn't CitML or anything, but it was funny and entertaining. I certainly LOL'd at a lot of lines. And Hodgins' King of the Lab moment was totally endearing.

One more thing. DB's directing was pretty dynamic (which I like) but there were a lot of very complex shots (which made me feel sorry for the crew. lol). I know some people have complained that the continuos motion was a bit dizzying and I definitely understand that, but personally, I enjoyed it. He needs some practice, yeah, but he obviously has skills. Specially loved the establishing shot of the car-dealership, with the crane and the camera following the wrong car....That's gotta be on my list of series favorites.

Jeannie said...

Heirofloki, you are probably right. As I said, my biggest beef was with the missing protective gear and the so-called "lockdowns", especially after Cam's almost-death in Man in the Cell. It irritated me so much, it pretty much ruined the rest of the episode for me.

As for the interrogation scenes, it just seemed off to me. Maybe it's because everybody has tried to take over Booth's territory lately, from Sweets "having" to help him out questioning suspects to him supposedly not knowing when people lie anymore. And suddenly, it's all 'Booth is the expert at interrogation' again. As for Brennan admitting that Booth was better at this than her, she has already discussed that with Gordon Gordon waaay back, so that's why it felt old to me.
But I think you are dead on with your statement that this is how Brennan deals with insecurities. And yes, that others do notice that he lets her get away with it is indeed a new light on their relationship. (And again, I found that very clever of the writers.)

As for the lapdance, I was so annoyed at having *another* openly sexual situation shoved into the episode that I couldn't see the laughable awkwardness I can see now (especially her paying for him). However, I still feel they make Brennan a little too dense sometimes.

I did not notice the directing issues at all. This is how irritated I was by what was going on. ;-)

heirofloki said...

Jeannie: I'm sorry to it got that annoying for you. Though it wasn't like that for me, I've certainly had the same experience with other shows. Not. Fun.

I agree on the protective gear issue. My biggest thing though (case related), was that the fire burnt a lot like ethanol.

OTOH, you know? I thought the scene with Sweets behind the mirror was a total callback to Gordon Gordon. I don't know, I feel like it was intentional. Back then, she's in the room without Booth and told Gordon that yes, Booth is better at people but follows up by saying that she wants to learn that skill. She wants to "become one with him" ... scientifically speaking, of course. ;) In this ep, she's watching Booth from the other side of the glass and decides that she's gonna fulfill that old desire, she's gonna become Booth. Or the Brennan version of Booth, which is by her definition, better. I love that because it carries all sorts of implications regarding how she relates to him as a person and...And now I'm surprised by how actually well done was the character work in this one. Yeah, the case was just not there (at all) but the characters were pretty well fleshed. *is surprised*

Jeannie said...

You are doing a good job at winning me over to the other side. ;-) Seems like there was more to this episode than what I initially thought. I think I'm going to rewatch it tonight to catch all the character stuff I missed. Thanks!

Anonymous said...

I thought the conversation Brennan had with Sweets about manipulating people was hilarious! He explains to her how to read confusion and then use it as an opportunity to gain someone's trust....and then he does it to her! He tells her she is a brilliant woman! So funny.

Jeannie said...

I loved his facial expressions! That was hilarious.

Question: Did anybody feel that the end scene was not only full of subtext but also included a healthy dose of realism for Brennan? She often talks about how great she is in bed, and again, at the end she foregoes Booth's suggestion and tries to have it her way, only to find out that it didn't get her far this time. I really liked that. Or am I reading too much into that scene?

Anonymous said...

I loved the last scene, with the car and bickering in public, it really put them out there as a couple. I also love how Angela's insight is always right. She is probally the only person who Brennan actually takes advice from and uses it. This was definately a character epi. I think alot more could have been done with the case and it seemed like yet another short episode.

Anonymous said...

I loved this episode. the case was not the best but seeing cam getting so frustrated was quite funny as she is always on top of things. the final scene was great and funny and I agree with anon booth and brennan are starting to act more and more like a couple.

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