Thursday, April 16, 2009

Live Thoughts & Discussion: Mayhem on the Cross

Talk away about "Mayhem on the Cross!"

Please, PLEASE, do not put spoilers for other season 4 episodes in this discussion. Many, MANY of the blog readers here avoid spoilers entirely. I'm sure there will be plenty in this episode alone to discuss for everyone's enjoyment :) Check out the Spoiler posts if you want to dish about how this episode is related to/foreshadowing/setting up anything in particular.

138 comments:

Amanda said...

nitpick: would you REALLY be able to tell someone's nationality from their teeth? Enter suspension of disbelief....

Gordon Gordon! Yay!

Anonymous said...

Favorite episode of this season, hands down. And re: teeth - Americans are largely the only people in the world to use orthodontics for cosmetic purposes. Skull-uhhh. :D

rachel said...

what did that page in sweet's book say at the end of the eppy?

Amanda said...

OMG. This is now my favorite episode, at least of the season. Definitely in my top 5! That ending. THIS is the Bones I fell in love with!

Thanks for the orthodontics clarification.

I want to take the time to list everything that's awesome about this episode, but I have to get packed for a weekend trip.

Anonymous said...

The best ending i have seen in a long time. She is such a good actress. Never saw the seets thing coming. Gordon, Gordon wonderful as always.

Anonymous said...

OMG that was the MOST adorable thing ever! That scene at the end restored every single giddy moment I have ever felt for this show in one second. AMAZING!

Amanda said...

@Rachel: the working title (which was long and squinty) was crossed out. The new title is "Bones-the Heart of the Matter".

Anonymous said...

Rachel - he changed the title from something I couldn't read to "Bones - The Heart of the Matter."

Anonymous said...

OMG! that last scene had me in tears!
I am completely awestruck *sigh*

brittany said...

great episode!!!! its an episode that reminded me of the good ol' days (season 1 and 2)! again great bones and booth moments like last night. can't wait for monday night at 8pm but what will i watch BONES or CHUCK???? the winner is BONES!

emma said...

oh, this episode made me cry at the end. poor sweets and brennan and booth, and yay for gorden gordon!! from what i saw of sweets' book it had a rather clinaical-type title crossed out, and ten a new one: Bones- the heart of the matter. i think

Anonymous said...

That episode... omg... I mean can we just hire Gordon Gordon for good... that episode was literally a package of AWESOME... wrapped with OMG with a bow of EEEEEEEEEE


-Rebecca11589

Nano said...

I loved the ending! Amazing!

rachel said...

also, what did bones and booth reveal to sweets at the end there? my pasta was boiling over and it got kind of hectic here so i missed the end bits.

Anonymous said...

@rachel

Bones revealed that as a foster child she had been locked in the trunk of a car for breaking a dish

Booth revealed if it weren't for his Grandfather he would of killed himself at a young age

AxmxZ said...

So who can tell me what the song was that got played as part of the "Naughty Comet" repertoire and got dear old Fry to dance around like the young rock-n-roller he never was?

rachel said...

thanks Anon...

wow. those are some deep stories that those 2 told.

so what does everyone think? was gordon gordon talking about booth or bones when he said that "one of them knows their feelings about the other and deals with it everyday."

Anonymous said...

So which one is aware of their attraction towards each other, i'm thinking bones. But why did sweets have the picture?

Anonymous said...

Soooo....what does the title change of Sweets' book mean? That he thinks it's Brennan who is struggling with the attraction?

Anonymous said...

I think it was meant to be Bones (gordon gordon was talking about)... i watched with a friend and I was almost sure it was booth but the title at the end really just (to me) gave it away that it's Bones.

-Rebecca11589

Anonymous said...

I totally think that its Booth that knows his feelings, I think that he has known on some level since Season 1.

Anonymous said...

I took as Booth being the one who's struggling to hide his feelings. Bones (who is the "heart" of the matter) is what he struggles over...

also, Bones places the handkerchief in his pocket (over his heart) and he touches it afterwards..

I am probably not making any sense :S

sciencefan said...

I really thought it was Booth that Gordon was talking about. Remember all the looks Booth has given her in recent episodes? And the ending of this episode also said the same thing - That Booth took deeper meaning to Bones putting the hankie in his pocket.

The title change did throw me off though (Of sweets book)

Wendy - can you do a poll to see who readers think it is?

Anonymous said...

First, this is definitely one of my favorites of the season. But I disagree, I think Gordon Gordon meant that Booth is aware of his feelings...don't we always talk about how much he cares for her? I think the title could refer to her reluctance to give into her heart.
Leena

anna kristine said...

It's gotta be Bones. From the sidelong glances looks in The Skull in the Sculpture to the skating scene in The Fire in the Ice, it's gotta be Bones.

Anne said...

Omg such an emotional ending, I never cry and I had tears in my eyes...excellently played by all actors, especially emily, omg i'm still in shock, and I have to study lol

Anonymous said...

with all due respect to Dr. GGW, haven't we always known that there is a MUTUAL attraction between these two?

I think they both have very strong feelings for each other but Booth is the one who is actually fully aware of it and actively tries suppress his feelings. While Bones is on the verge of confessing ~ she just needs a catalyst.

samantha said...

I think they have both known for a long time but brennan has made her feelings clear. I think that it is booth that is struggling to hide his feelings because he does not want to lose her. And the tears in booths eyes as she was telling the story. Then afterward telling his he asks her if she is ok. I melted and cried.

Lindsay said...

Booth KNOWS his feelings for Brennan. He isn't struggling with them. Yes he has to hold himself back a little because of it but he isn't struggling,

Brennan on the other hand isn't quite sure of these emotions that Booth evokes in her. So she is the one that is struggling to identify it and deal with it.

Anonymous said...

I think the title "Bones-The Heart of the Matter" was meaning more so along the lines of Bones being a heartful person despite her imperical nature. That I think was relating more towards Gordon Gordon's comment of that the two are not opposites at all.

I think that Booth is the one aware of the attraction (ie: awkward look/touching the hankie). Bones would be the one that is unaware because of her logical thinking process but nonetheless holds the attraction as well.

Anonymous said...

I have to watch this eppy again tonight...otherwise I won't be able to sleep...
any links?

help!please?

sciencefan said...

By the way - Wendy is in the hospital having her baby!!! Congratulations!

( I read it on Twitter)

Rolywa said...

omg i cant believe i had to work and missed the episode!!!

i cant wait till i come home from work tomorrow and can see it!!!!

Dani said...

oh gratz to Wendy...!!

Anonymous said...

I'm a bit surprised the GG thinks only one of Booth and Brennan is aware of the chemistry between them. Seem obvious to me that the attraction is shared and understood by both. It appears that the show wants us to think it's Booth, and that would make sense to me. I'm a man. There's no way I could work with Brennan everyday and not be totally smitten. I feel that way after 43 minutes of tv. Plus, it fits with their characters. Booth feels, Brennan thinks.

Anonymous said...

it's definitely booth-think about the episode when he was on painkillers. the problem though is that sweets thinks it is brennan, even though she is still clueless.

so much comedic potential...

Don't Call Me Bones! said...

I think it's Booth that is the one that is aware of the attraction, and struggles with it daily. By struggles, I think it means that he knows he's in love with Brennan, but at this point, can't do anything with that...hence, his struggle. That being said, it looks as though Brennan is really beginning to catch up with him... (yay!)...although, is very confused at everything she is feeling, b/c it goes against so much that she has believed in, until now...until BOOTH!!

Loved those revelations in the final scene! Very well done!

Mickey said...

Downloads for those who haven't gotten to see it yet:

http://hotfile.com/dl/268549/ed54758/bones.s04e21.hdtv.xvid-2hd.avi.htmlhttp://www.uploadrack.com/uujit03nxv5r/bones.s04e21.hdtv.xvid-2hd.avihttp://www.megaupload.com/?d=4BS51EN7Thanks to Frances for providing them!

Anonymous said...

how long until it's posted online??? I missed it airing ):

Mickey said...

Ugh, sorry about the bad formatting before:

http://hotfile.com/dl/268549/ed54758/bones.s04e21.hdtv.xvid-2hd.avi.htmlhttp://www.uploadrack.com/uujit03nxv5r/bones.s04e21.hdtv.xvid-2hd.avihttp://www.megaupload.com/?d=4BS51EN7

Rebecca said...

I side with the those who think it's Booth who Knows. I think "Bones: the Heart of the Matter" refers to the central place Brennan has for Booth. Why else use his nickname for her? (Or I suppose it could be as plain that bones are what the partners work around every day, but I like my first impression better.)
On the other hand, I'll have to listen to the conversation again, but didn't Wyatt say "at least one?" I could be wrong on that.

Sweets = baby duck = precious!!

Oh, man, everyone in/close to tears in that last scene--so heart wrenching!

Mickey said...

It did it again! Really, they look fine on the previews. Here they are, one at a time.

http://hotfile.com/dl/268549/ed54758/bones.s04e21.hdtv.xvid-2hd.avi.html

Mickey said...

http://www.uploadrack.com/uujit03nxv5r/bones.s04e21.hdtv.xvid-2hd.avi

Mickey said...

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=4BS51EN7

Sophie said...

Oh, this was so good. I want to know what happened to Booth when he was a kid. Bad.

I love the new title of Sweets' book. I suspect it's because bones are technically the heart of what they do together, but it brings up something I've always loved about the show. The fact that it's called BONES means it's supposed to be about both of them. Brennan may BE Bones, but Booth is the only person allowed to call her that. Loved it.

Angelator said...

I am so happy we only have to wait until Monday for a new episode! This one had so many good parts. Bones in the interview room was HILARIOUS! Her face when she said, "there are no rock concerts in prison!" was hilarious.

The end was super sweet (ha ha - sweet...sweets). I think Booth is in love and he knows it. He was concerned when he thought she was by herself at the concert, he loved watching her on the screen, the end of yesterday's episode showed it as well. Booth is the one who is aware of his feelings.

Also - did anyone else think Booth's line near the end was hilarious when he was talking to Gordon about Sweets and he said, "what are we, the land of misfit toys?"

BTW, congrats Wendy on the lil' squint!!

Anonymous said...

I think that it is Bones who struggles with the attraction. I think she is trying to rationalize her feelings for Booth with what she has believed forever about love not being real and what not. The struggle is in her not understanding her feelings for Booth while Booth, I think, knows he is attracted to her and is not struggling with it as much as Bones.

Just my two cents. Take it or leave it. :)

Anonymous said...

omg wow. just.... wow. these last few episodes have been nothing short of amazing... but this one was ESPECIALLY incredible. that ending? I'm still totally confused as to whether it's booth or bones (my gut says booth, but that seems like too obvious of an answer... and nothing on this show is ever obvious).

i laughed, i cried. i loved EVERY single minute of it.

Anonymous said...

My impression has been Booth is the one who knows and deals with the realisation, but the title, I think, rather suggests the opposite. I think it means "the matter" (="Brennan"; She might well say ultimately a human is a physical object, composed of matters, that in turn composed of atoms...with neurotransmitters and hormones and so on, you know) actually has "the heart". So Brennan may be the one who's struggling with her own heart.
May x

Anonymous said...

it's booth who is aware of his feeling,(remember in one of the episodes that other FBI agent asked bones if she really didn't have any idea as to why booth was being protective and bones said no!!!!!!!!!)

Amanda said...

Brennan says "Less than one a year?" when Clark gives her the Norwegian murder stats. A 0.7% murder rate works out to about 3251 murders based on the census number of 4,644,457 Norwegians.

rachel said...

for those that didn't see what the previous title of sweet's book was. it was called "Opposites Attract: Yin and Yang in the Workplace" but he crossed that out and now it is titled "Bones, the Heart of the Matter"

Anonymous said...

okay, I'm sorry if this is just me, but has anyone seen the viral video on youtube of the little boy saying "blood" over and over again? (it's just a home video... the kid is overly concerned because he saw that his little brother had a small cut that was bleeding)

.... anyway, the way bones kept saying "skull" all funny-like (in norwegian) sounded EXACTLY like the little kid's repetitions! it was uncanny... and so funny.

sorry if that was SO far off topic, but it made that part of the episode all the funnier for me. you should check the video out.. if nothing else, it's adorable and mildly chuckle-worthy.

BatGirl said...

For everyone who's wondering, the crossed out title of Sweets' book said 'Opposites Attract: Yin and Yang in the Work Place' :)

Oh, man. You all have such wonderful insight. I think I've always known that Booth had feelings for Brennan, but after what Gordon Gordon said, I had to think about Brennan too. I mean she said it herself, she's very good at compartmentalizing. But who's to say that Booth hasn't totally broken down her walls and she is now struggling with what she's feeling? Am I sounding stupid now or what? HAHA. I can't explain it properly, but with how the show is going it's really possible that it's Brennan. Okay fine. 50/50 Booth or Brennan. :|

About the title change Sweets made to his book, well that kinda made me thinking.

Bones - The Heart of the MatterIt can mean a lot of stuff, which makes it so frustrating. I'll be analyzing this all day.

Anonymous said...

I also think its booth who knows. Remember in hero in the hold when Parker says he died without telling his girlfriend he loved her? There was then a discussion about booth not doing the same thing. I believe that this was the moment booth was sure of his feelings. I wish I could remember the exact conversation, but that's the general overview. I too enjoyed the island of misfit toys reference, and thought the yoko ono, is that some kind of bible reference was brilliant

Anonymous said...

This episode is the first episode this season that made me feel as twitterpated as the first few seasons!

When Sweets changed the title of his book, he hadn't seen the "interaction" with the hankie between Bones and Brennan yet. Therefore, the title shouldn't have any bearing on who struggles with the attraction.

I think its Booth. They are both intensely attracted to each other but Booth is more in tune with himself to recognize it and battle it. The awkward glance he throws Brennan after she touches him says it all! He is wondering if she feels it too.

I would love to listen to another conversation between Gordon and Angela....that would be awesome!

The acknowledgement of Sweets' past and Brennan blurting out her trunk story and Booth tearing up and then reluctantly sharing his tiny bit of info and them including Sweets in their family......omigod...too much for this Bones fan! Loved it.

P.S. Congrats Wendy!

proud bones fan said...

WOWZA! what an episode!

everyone's done a pretty good job of summarizing the best parts of the episode for me already.. I don't know what else I can add. perhaps I'll highlight a brief bit that I thought was particularly cute/funny: when booth and bones are just about to walk out the door of his apartment to get sweets, and they're talking about "duck hunting," booth does the CUTEST "quack quack" imitating a duck as he walks out the door... I dunno why, but I absolutely loved it.

and of course the final scene... I admit, I cried a little. I tried not to, but it was just so darn tearjerking!

to put in my two cents about the "heart" of the matter.... I think, as some of you have pointed out, that booth is the one who has acknowledged his feelings, and is no longer trying so hard to hide them. BUT he's still struggling with his feelings, because he's waiting for bones to let him know that she feels the same way. I wouldn't say bones is "struggling" so much. but I don't know, this is all pure speculation.

this episode reminded me why I love bones so very, very much. and I've never been more proud to be a fan.


P.S. congrats on the baby squint, Wendy!!!!! :)

Milky said...

CONGRATS ON THE BABY SQUINT, WENDY!!!loved the ep. not only the humor was much more balanced than in other eps, there was a lot of insight into the characters... so much that I have complete new theories on them all, lol.

So... I agree with Lindsay in that Booth doesn't struggle (beyond holding back, waiting for her) and that is Bones the one that struggles. I see that in the way Booth acted in the 'Someday' talk of last night's ending scene.
And I also agree with Rebecca's in Bones being the heart of the matter because it's her that's going to take the decision--he's just waiting.

Booth is the one with the highest walls, though. He wants to protect her because he's called to her by their shared scars. He feels he can connect with her and show tiny tiny bits of himself with HER... and closes tightly if someone else is there. That's why he was so cold about Sweets in the end scene while torn by her story. He wouldn't have told the thing about his granddad otherwise.

Their acting was amazing in that scene.

on another note: as a psychologist in trained I felt in paradise with this ep--- the effects of GG were amazing even if he's knowledge comes from experience and not from a true passion for therapy.

and can't ignore the fact Alex from Lost was Lexie, lol...

Anonymous said...

wow Emily Deschanel acting was soooooooo good in this episode! She is awesome and funny!

Dani said...

OMG, that was the best ending to a show EVER... how good are DB and ED with the emotions...

and i totally agree, Its Booth thats aware of his feelings..

Anonymous said...

I loved this episode....just when you think you can not possibly get any more addicted to this show....out comes another great episode.

I think the writers of Bones have great capacity to bring our two heroes together....and not lose sight of great stories, laughter and chemistry!

In regards to the title of Sweet's book: Bones: the heart of the matter...here's my take...

Matter is a scientific term meaning situation, state or affair.

Heart - Booth has often referred to heart and brain, and bringing forward to the centre stage feelings rather than logic.

Bones - obviously Brennan (that's Booth's and Booth's alone name for Brennan)!

Therefore.....I think in Sweet's study, although this couple appear worlds apart Brennan is the 'centre' of Booth's world.

**sigh**

Dani said...

i completely agree with your take Anon... for him to reveal what he did and then ask Bones if SHE was okay backs that theory up..

She is definitely the center of his world

Anonymous said...

yep, i don't think we need a poll here: the one who is aware of their feelings, but struggles with them, is definitley Booth. I agree that its been obvious since season one, his silence when sully asked if he had the hots for brennan, the conversation on the navy ship, perottas 'you really don't, do you?' there are about 10 gajillion other signs, my favorite of which is currently that hankey moment.

but it IS frustrating that bones doesn't realize her feelings. Its really beyond time for that to happen. the imbalance drives me a little crazy!
also, sweets was WHIPPED when he was younger than 6 years old?! no wonder he was into death metal.

p.s. loved the quacking, the fact that booth listened to naughty comet, gordon gordon, everything else too (:

p.p.s. he totally had re-done the title before he figured out which one of them had le feelings. which i take to mean something else, probably having to do with the 'not opposites' thing...

LOVEBONES said...

what was up with the random Brennan/Clark BDSM strangle straddle get down on all fours moment? and angela listening to metal... they got pretty wild this ep!!!

Gigi said...

I honestly believe GG was talking about Bones. She is so rational that when something like love has come her way she struggles with it. I think she also struggled with the part of her that *knows* how humans can really be and how she wishes she could look at love the same way as Angela and such.

Last episode at the end Booth and Bones talk about how she doesn't look at love the same way everyone else does and that she is jealous of that. This episode GG says that one of them is struggling with it - She knows she loves him but she struggles with the fact that she doesn't believe love can last forever. She has *knows* that it will end at some point and she doesn't want that.

I use ** to show the difference between how emotional people would look at it and her hyper-rational personality would look at it.

I believe Booth struggles as well but his struggles are more with patience and not on the same level as Bones.

Anonymous said...

For those curious about the crossed out title of Sweets' book, it was "Opposites Attract: the Yin and Yang of the Workplace" or like. It was then changed to "Bones- The Heart of the Matter". With regard to Gordon, Gordon's observation/Sweets' revelation, I tend to agree with those who favor Booth as the one who struggles with his feelings. Although I believe that they're both acutely aware of their attraction to one another, I believe that Booth being the more emotional of the two struggles a lot more with his feelings for Brennan. (think the episode where Zach Addy gets his PHD.. that moment outside the Royal Diner and even tonight with the hanky) I see the logic behind the Bones opinion, but I feel that perhaps the title change just implies that Booth's feelings for Brennan influence their working relationship?

I'm not sure, looking for input! Loved the episode, hope for more like it because it takes me back to seasons 1 and 2 which got me hooked in the first place!

-R

Nina said...

oo oo wouldnt it be cool if sweets got it wrong again and thought he had figured out who it was that knew of their feelings but was struggling with them-- but he is wrong-- and he spills the beans... ahaha!

its interesting that gordon gordon was talking about 'attraction', and sweets about the 'sexual nature' of their relationship. Bones has been pretty sexually forthright and of course writes all those 'dirty little scenes' in her books that are obviously about her and booth. I think she struggles with love, not attraction.

basically, I dont know what to think when they are talking about sex and attraction, is love included in that?

Saara said...

Didn't the Norwegian people speak Swedish? I understood everything they said and that just doesn't happen with Norwegian...

tybonium said...

First off, thank God for dvr's. I watched that last scene so many times!

I was trying to think it through logically to see who GG was talking about, and found arguments for either Bones or Booth, but was still leaning towards Bones. I don't think we can read anything into the book title because Sweets hadn't seen what GG was talking about when he wrote it. But it does show that he was approaching B&B in a different (possibly more emotional way)

But here is the thing that finally stood out to me. Booth wasn't touching his heart after Bones put the hanky in. He was reaching to grab her hand, and she pulled away from him. Booth looks hurt after she pulls her hand away from his. That's when Sweets says he saw what GG was talking about.

At least that's my take on it. I'm sure everyone has their own take on it.

Anonymous said...

That was an amazing episode! And Emily Deschanel is a wonderful actress. That last scene could easily become a bit cheesy but she delivered it perfectly. And don't even get me started on Stephen Fry! I hope it's not the last we see of Gordon Gordon! I think it's pretty obvious that Booth has known a long time that Brennan IS the one, and it's Bones that struggles with figuring the whole thing out. But she IS figuring it out but it will never come easy for these two. At least I hope it isn't because that would mean that the series will be over faster and I don't want that!

It's time somebody sat up and payed a little notice to ED's acting and nominates her for an award. I still can't get over how good she was in this episode. It whole in your face attitude in the interrogation room and the two last scenes. WOW!

Anonymous said...

To AMANDA:
Yes, you can get a decent idea of someone's nationality through their teeth.
American people are known for all the work they get done. British and European people are known for the lack of work.
There is also the water thing, I know some countries treat their water differently (adding floride etc) this has an effect on the teeth. An expert can easily tell you the region someone is from considering those factors (and a couple others).

Jeannie said...

Maybe I'm being way to literal here but I took the new title of Sweets' book that he was referring to actual bones as being the heart of the matter since this is how they solve their cases (mostly) and Brennan's speciality, maybe with a double meaning in regard to Brennan.

As for GG's remark, I never doubted for a second that he was referring to Booth. He is clearly the only one who actually deals with this emotions on this which was evidenced by the final scene where even Sweets caught it.

Gigi said...

I still think that the struggle is with Bones especially since the conversation in the last episode about how she is jealous that others regard love differently then she does and how badly she would like to regard it in the same way.

To me Booths struggle is more superficial, he wants to have her in every sense of the word but he can't. I think he struggles with the patience he has to have.

When I think of the struggle GG was talking about (And I just rewatched it - so for those of you who wanted to see it online Fox has it up already) I think of a more internalized struggle where this whole idea of the two of them being together is going to change everything they are. Granted it will change Booth but not like it will change Bones. I think that is one of the struggles she is having with this - if she were to get involved with him it would mean re-evaluating her entire life. It really would be a life altering event for her.

Sammy said...

Another emotionally fuelled epi. I loved the end of this episode. I've seen Sweets as part of the team for a long time now but I think this epi really showed that his character is significant, I love him. I know a lot of people will resent this but I think, especially after Brennan opened up to him like that, that he has replaced the empty space that was Zac. As much as I miss Zac. I'm reminded of the Zac and Brennan scenes every time theres a scene with just Brennan and an intern. But I love the revolving interns too.

Anonymous said...

hey, did anyone pick up on when bones said that she and booth can make a permenant place for sweets? seems to me that she believes her and booth are permenant. also loved the booth line about all of them being from the land of misfit toys...sad but endearing.

alanna said...

Loved this episode! That ending....just wonderful.

I especially loved how, even though he was starting to tear up himself, Booth was concerned more if Brennan was okay. I had tears in my own eyes after that!

My thoughts on the 'who struggles' issue - I know someone mentioned it already but I believe that Booth isn't struggling. Yes, he probably gets somewhat frustrated because he's waiting for Brennan, but I think that when you're well aware of your feelings it's not necessarily a struggle anymore. I'm sure he does struggle with the fact that he loves this woman and she's not quite ready yet, but I don't believe he is struggling with the attraction itself on a daily basis like Gordon Gordon said.

Brennan, however, is still coming to terms with that fact that there is an attraction there for Booth. And not just an attraction....Booth is someone who has been with her all these years, hasn't abandoned her, and showed her that it's okay to trust someone once in a while - that not everyone is going to betray her.

Just my two cents. Lord knows I was up half the night pondering this. :)

Anonymous said...

I just re-watched the final scene on hulu.com and it is truly lovely. really nicely done. and it is totally booth! He looks at her so searchingly when she puts the hankerchief in his pocket. then quickly looks away when he doesn't see what he was hoping for in her eyes. I think it is unmistakable. He is waiting for her to catch up.

Big Puppy said...

oh wow, DB and ED do the BEST EYE ACTING EVER.

he is SO in LOVE with her its CRAZY.

i think its funny that all arguments make sense. aren't they both struggling? but if we were to go with only one it would be booth. you can see the pain in his eyes very very clearly- thats struggling with an awareness, like gordon said.

maybe bones is struggling with her un-awareness but thats not quite the same thing...

also the moments where bones goes way out of her element- harrasing the metal guy, singing cindi lauper, playing air guitar to foreigner and talking about her childhood, i just LOVE how booth LOVES to see her go for it. He supports her always.

winona said...

Hi, everyone,

First let me say that I am so glad I found this blog with others who are as crazy as I am about this show and these actors and these writers! I have been obsessing about this episode. I just wanted to add to everyone else's comments to say that Emily broke my heart when she was telling her story about being locked in the trunk (which by the way, I did not see coming)...and then turned to Booth to say that she still didn't think it was fair even though she had been warned! OMG! Still feeling it was her fault! And bless his heart Sweets answer was the perfect one to let her realize it wasn't her fault. AND THEN to have Booth try to touch her hand on his heart and she pulls away! Jeez, I've been crying over these "misfit toys" all night! I don't know if I can take Booth having health problems, too. LOVE, love, love, THIS SHOW and everyone connected with it.

Anonymous said...

Hmm... just watched Bones and I have to agree that Booth is the one who's struggling.

While he may understand fully how he feels about her, he may struggle with the fact that he's unsure of her feelings or with the fact that to act on his feelings could end up with them being seperated (I know she's not really FBI, but she is his partner ...) and if Booth's actions could result in them being spilt up (which Brenna could take as him abandoning her...) then I don't think he'd risk it...

Also, Sweets being a shrink would probably have a double meaning for his title. It could be taken (as already said) that BONES as in the hard white thingies that are sore when they break, are the heart of the matter in that they are what B&B's working relationship is about and BONES are what brought them together and help them solve their cases.

Or, it could be taken any of the ways we've been commonting on...

Anonymous said...

This episode was epic. Legendary.

--B. Booth

Congrats on the new baby Wendy!

ninirific said...

I love reading all the comments on here. You guys always give me stuff to think about! Ok, so hands down favorite episode this season. I love Gordon Gordon (I miss him!) and Sweets. Their scenes together were great!  I loved the insight to Sweets’ past. And I have NO idea who it is that GG was referring to. I’ll be watching the epi again, but I think this was what the writers were planning; to have us wondering and dying to know who it is. They are setting up the rest of the season quite nicely. From what we’ve seen in the past and that ending scene, it could easily be either one. I tend to lean to Booth, but then have to agree with some here that said it seems too obvious. On the other hand, I have to think that Booth doesn’t struggle per say. I think if anyone is struggling it has to be Brennan. I agree with tybonium that Booth seems to have been going to touch her hand. At the same time I found it really telling that she placed the handkerchief with her tears there technically over his “heart” and then tapped it like saying “take care of me” or “my tears are safe with you” kind of things. I absolutely loved this episode. Emily had me in tears with her revelation at the end. It just made for such a powerful moment. When Bones was in the interrogation room, she was able to let loose and it was almost a bit of a breakthrough, if a tad comical, on her interrogation technique. I found it really interesting that she was able to do this because Booth was talking her through it. Their connection on conscious as well as subconscious levels is astounding. Also, quick observation: when Booth finally decided to share his metaphorical scar, he said it while looking at Brennan only. Not Sweets to whom they were supposed to be sharing. He still only opens up that way to Bones and his looking only at her while saying it just shows how he needs HER and their connection to feel grounded and safe enough to share this part of himself.

Don't Call Me Bones! said...

@Tybonium...YES, I agree!!! (About him grabbing for her hand). You know, at first, that is what I thought...that Booth was going to grab for her hand, and she pulled away too quickly. And my thinking, is that she probably did that b/c they had an audience (in Sweets)! That was my initial thought! Then, with all of the discussion about the hand over the heart thing, that observation kind of slipped my mind for a minute. Re-watch peeps, and chime back in with your thoughts.

By the way...I love being able to discuss the show here, with people who are as passionate about it, as I am. I hope that we can have discussions like this, after all the episodes!!

jane said...

This episode was amazing. I had tears in my eyes at the end. ED and DB were spectacular. And JFD was superb. This show just keeps getting better and better for me.

All of you have made convincing arguments over "who" the person that GG was referring to. I could easily argue both cases myself.

However, it was something ninirific said above that got me to thinking. She stated, and brilliantly I might add, that Booth made his confession while looking at Bones. I think that Booth cares for Sweets; and that he wants Sweets to be a part of "the land of misfit toys." But more than that, he made that confession to Bones, and for Bones sake, I believe. The way he was looking at her, the way he felt about her confession(the evidence was in his eyes), the way he needed to know she was okay. He made that confession because she asked him to.

And the way they have been talking about metaphorical marks and scars. Brennan needed to hear that from Booth as much as she wanted Sweets to hear it from Booth. The hankerchief over the heart was not lost on me. That entire scene was amazing. And I was thoroughly impressed with the acting.

Irina said...

Did no one else get the impression that Booth was almost trying to touch Bones' hand, there at the end? Not the hankie?
I dunno, I'm still lost in a spiral or angst-satisfied deliciousness and finally some decent writing!
YES! BONES KICKED TOTAL ASS!!!

Anonymous said...

BEST EPISODE!! My new fav, it was done so well. I just about died at bones' confession and booth reacton and his own confession. OMG the hanky. Brennan is def the one struggling and I think Booth knows and is just waiting for her. lol i just love this show

BatGirl said...

I've been reading all your wonderful comments and OMG I cannot believe I missed Booth trying to reach for Brennan's hand when she gave back his hanky. Err. You guys are amazing. I can only wish that people with me day to day can converse like this with me.

This episode just made me so proud to be a Bones fan. :D Wonderful writing, wonderful acting... wow.

winona said...

Obviously, guys, I am still obsessing about this episode midway into the afternoon. But something an earlier poster said about Brennan wanting Booth to tell Sweets but also needing to hear something about his "scars" herself struck a chord with me. If we're talking about moving the storyline along toward their love scene, it makes so much sense that Brennan would need Booth to let at least one wall come down - to prove his commitment to her if you will..to know she's not in this alone. Man, am I reading too much into this or what! I so respect these writers!

Anonymous said...

That white hanky really caught my eye. I think it was a little flag of surrender (along with opening up about her past). Bones saying, "You've got me ... here's my 'heart'."

Anonymous said...

*Bones saying, "You've got me ... here's my 'heart'."*

Awwwwww! I love that analogy! Maybe this was just the push in the right direction they needed...

Rolywa said...

The moment I KNEW Booth loved Bones (one of out many) was in the courtroom last season when he was used on stand to get her father out of jail and he says "that takes a lot of heart Bones." His eyes, his face, the hug afterwards....thats when I knew for certain he knew he loved her and was just waiting for her to catch up!

Gabriella said...

This episode was great. One of the best ones! Finely some debth agein.
As an norwegian I personaly love that the people talking norwegian speak it right, well... The woman at the beginning spoke the words right, though in strange combinations at the end of the dialog. Bones was ok, thought the pronounced was more swedish at times. But the two languages is very alike. Dr.Edison actualy pronounced "skalle" better. But good work!
This is realy the Bones I love, and want too see. The ending is one of the best ones ever!

cordy said...

Wow, awesome. This definitely was the best episode of season 4 (should I say, so far?). The ending scene totally blew me away.
And I join the ones that think, GG was talking about Booth being the one that is acutely aware and struggling with the sexual component in their relatinship.

NorwegianBonesLover said...

Wow, that was a REALLY great episode - I live in Norway and just downloaded it. By the way, Brennan speaking "norwegian" was HILARIOUS! But actually, Cam's pronounciation was better.. Just saying. Even so, really funny with the whole Norwegian setting! And about the murder rate, I don't know where they got those numbers from, but there's an average of about 3-4 murders in Norway every year. Any other questions about Norway and Norwegian culture? Let me know, and I'll provide the answers!

Go Bones!

Anonymous said...

Really great discussion! Great episode - not my favorite even though I love Gordon Gordon, but that's because my favorite overall is the one from last week. Can't remember the name - something in the something ;)

Anyway...

I also thought the obvious answer was Booth, what with Gordon Gordon making this observation while also being Booth's counselor - knowing the guy inside out. Plus Booth generally being the more emotionally driven of the two.

But I'm beginning to think it's Brennan.

I think Booth has already made up his mind about the whole thing. He's come to terms with it, works through it. I don't think it's a "struggle" for him - he's accepted it and it's a part of his life. I'm sure he thinks it's awkward, but he has probably been in similar situations social situations before, has learned how to deal, etc.

As smart as Brennan is, she still struggles to grasp how to deal with people emotionally and how to delicately deal with her own emotions (ie she doesn't show them, vent them).

I think back to Perotta, too. Bones showed herself to be very observant of Booth - especially his "eyes sparkling" or something along those lines - I think she feels that something about Booth has always been different, and for whatever reason she's never called it out.

And here's the thing -- she's always been very quick to make a situation extremely awkward, she acts impulsively without really thinking it through. Think of all the times she's called something out to people's faces when she should have kept it to herself.

For some reason, she can't seem to be upfront with Booth. She avoids it. Based upon how she acted in the past, it's not really like her.

The icing on the cake for this theory is Bones quickly pulling her hand away before Booth could touch it. He obviously cares a lot for her. That isn't a struggle for him. He's openly touchy-feely, warm to her. She's still struggling to figure out when something like that is even appropriate, where Booth perhaps feels it always is.

So I think, as much as it's been pointing at Booth - it's a diversion. I also think it would make sense that the person who knows Booth the best (Gordon Gordon) has also been keeping careful eye on his partner as of late. He seems to take happy interests in the people in Booth's life (ie obsession with Sweets history).

Just my two cents :) I could be dead, dead wrong. I suppose it doesn't matter either way, though.

Certainly said...

Hey you Norwegian, didn't at least the Norwegian Bones speak Swedish? I know that the languages are quite similar, but still, I had no trouble at all understanding her and usually Norwegian causes me trouble. (I'm a Finn, Swedish second language.) The guy spoke Norwegian though.

the heart of the matter said...

okay so I've re-watched this episode about a million times since last night (I can't get enough of it!... and I may have also re-watched the last two episodes a couple of times haha... I just can't get them out of my head!!)

and, anyway, the thing that catches me the most about the last scene is when brennan is putting the handkerchief back in booth's pocket... after re-watching it a couple of times, I think that booth is the only one who recognizes the significance of that moment.

bones seems to hesitate, placing her hand over the pocket, but I really think it was more of a subconscious placing of her hand over his heart... she doesn't seem consciously aware of the symbolic significance.

booth, on the other hand, immediately took it (consciously) as a significant gesture. the first time I watched it, I thought that when he put his hand over his pocket that maybe he was just putting his hand where hers had been..... but after watching his facial expression, you can tell he was CLEARLY reaching for bones' hand. but, she pulled it away. if you watch his expression closely, he looks extremely crestfallen when he puts his hand there and hers is no longer there... like he's hurt that she took her hand away.

it makes me think that, as some of you suggested, booth has come to a state of conscious awareness of his love for bones... so he's not STRUGGLING with it, per se (other than having to be so patient while waiting for bones). bones, however, is struggling with her feelings: subconsciously, I think she knows she loves booth; but, on a conscious level, she just can't come to grips with the fact.

just my opinion.

(sorry for such a long post!

Anonymous said...

Booth shooting at the speakers...

did anyone else find that scene oddly sexy?
---

We got our old Booth back...the Booth we know and love

caring yet assertive
humble yet slightly arrogant
tough yet emotional

catnapping said...

oh. my. god.

poor sweets. i knew all along he saw b and b as surrogate parents. so clearly he's done a great job in conveying that in the scenes he's shared with them.

brennan's revelation, (and her motivation for making it)...had me in tears. her compassion for sweets. i don't know how booth kept himself from telling right then and there that he loved her.

i figure gordon was referring to booth...and that scene - him touching the kerchief she put in his pocket...well, for me that looked to be cincher. but damn. who knows?

*Vodzu* said...

Thats gonna be strange question but... does anyone knows if the songs used in that epi are real? mostly of that STEW band, I tried to look them uo but didnt find anything and I liked one of them ( strange as it may sound xD)

catnapping said...

reading some of the comments regarding booth's "not struggling" anymore...

great point! now i'm thinking gordon-gordon is talkin' about brennan.

iy yi yi!

Dani said...

I think, after reading all the comments here that it might just be Brennan after all.. which is a 180 from what i thought last night...!

She is terrified of an emotional connection with anyone after her abandonment as a child, I mean think about things... how much more devestated would she be if Booth left her?

Hey did anyone notice GG calling Booth out for dumbing himself down?! Yay for brilliant Angela, she was right!!

Anonymous said...

Here's something I've been pondering all day. Gordon Gordon states early in the episode that the author, sweets, reveals more about himself in his writing than his subjects, B and B. Is that what we are doing here? I love Booth because I really relate to his character, while my husband relates to Bones. Only as we argued our points for our respective characters did I realize how right Gordon Gordon was. Maybe I'm wrong but id love to hear what you all think.

tybonium said...

I think anon ^ has an interesting point, though I think it's not necessarily always the case. I relate more to Bones, and my first instinct was that she is struggling, but after reading what other people are saying I started to change me mind.

I think it's more of a problem if you don't outside input, or someone to bounce your ideas off of.

tybonium said...

Alright, so I'm watching it again, and I noticed something else...

Sweets tells GG that he feels they both are aware of their attraction and are sublimating their attraction to each other so they can continue to work together.

When GG is correcting Sweets, he says that one of them is acutely aware and struggles with it daily.

I am beginning the think GG was stressing that only one of them is aware and that the other one still isn't; not that one is struggling and one isn't. They both are struggling with different things, but only one is really aware of the attraction between them.

I could go on about this theory, but I think you guys can fill in where it goes from there.

I really should make dinner and stop watching this. Sorry to go on and on.

Lawrence said...

Even with all the B&B shippers going nuts, I still find it interesting that only one poster mentioned Angela. She doesn't just listen to metal, she said she had seen the blood spewing act "Sixty times in the last two years". That means she's gone to a death metal concert two to three times a month just for that act alone.

Angie's a death metal chick! Who'd a thunk it?

Anonymous said...

@ lawrence
I think Angela meant that she saw that trick 60 times in the videos she was looking up, not that she'd seen them in concert

Mi said...

what a great episode!!! I think Gordon Gordon said AT LEAST one of them is AWARE and struggles with it daily, but remember that when he told sweets this, he hadn't seen Dr. Brennan with Booth yet, thus he was going off what he had last seen, when he was there. I do think they both struggle, but I do think this is an issue of awareness. Booth is aware that he loves her (I wish someone would look at me like Booth looked at Brennan when she was investigating), but struggles with it. I disagree that he is waiting for her, he seems unsure (the hand on the pocket scene) and especially since her views go completely against his with regards to relationships. I think he struggles with the fact that he may want something she isn't ready to give. We all know she can get there, but the previous episodes show that she is not there yet.

Carrie said...

I'd love some people's opinions about the growth of these characters (specifically B&B) over the four seasons. The effect Booth has had on Bones is quite obvious--but I can't somehow see what effect Bones has had on Booth. His "breakthroughs" in self-awarebess all seem to come from outside forces: GG, Sweets, the ghost from HitH. They all lead him TO Brennan but I can't feel they come FROM Brennan. There is no doubt he feels for her, but what exactly does she do for him?

Don't get me wrong--I love these characters, but where the show has struggled this season sometimes seems to me to be in balancing the character development, so there were some reversals/inconsistencies/regressions in the name of "Bones dealing with feelings" in ways that had been addressed in seasons 1 and 2 that almost became farcical. Runon sentence, I know. Sorry.

brennanite said...

for Carrie:

I think that Booth is prone to co-dependency, see his relationship with his brother. He is an over-protector. I think his relationship issues in the past have had to do with partners who were either too dependent on him, or not dependent enough on him. If you recall, Rebecca left him in part because she was afraid she couldn't be independent when she was with him. I take this to mean she didn't like how he brought out her over-dependent side. However, he has a need, for his own sense of self-worth, to be able to take care of those around him.

In this context, Brennan is a good match for him because she at once needs him very much, but refuses to allow herself to be dependent. She is gradually learning how to rely on him, without compromising her own very powerful needs for autonomy and independence. But she is also in need of protection, because she is something of an innocent in the world. Also, she tends to take hardship and pain and just swallow it. She doesn't seek out help or support, her instinct is to suffer alone, take responsibility on herself. Booth protects her from this instinct to take "the world on her shoulders."

Of course, the other thing that she does for him is call him on his bullshit. Booth tends to always direct the course of every interaction, nearly everyone just follows his cue obediently. But Brennan isn't so blindly obedient, and the result is that she often gets past the facade and brings him out in the open. And he can be vulnerable to her, because she doesn't depend on him always being the strong one.

As for GGs comment, I think that "struggling daily" is more Booth's style. When Brennan has a conflict, she tends towards impatience. She is likely to try to take it on directly with sometimes ham-fisted solutions. Patient struggle sounds Booth-y to me.

Gigi said...

I hear the arguments for Booth being the one struggling and I just can't seem to align myself with that view - even though I do know he struggles. Someonelse pointed it out what GG said - one of them is acutely aware of their attraction. To me this means a constant internal struggle. The only one (to me)that fits that description is Bones. How could she not be aware of the attraction that she feels, she acknowledges all physical/mental attraction that she experiences. This is different - not only is the attraction present and with her partner but he has a sense of love that she doesn't have and I really don't think they would have had the moment in the episode before that she was visibly upset over her jealousy that other believed in love and being hyper-rational she could not feel it. To me that is the most obvious sign.

Zooey said...

What a beauty of an episode.
And as always, it's a real blessing to have all you wonderful fans to revel with.

... And congrats, Wendy!!

Jeannie said...

That's just my personal opinion but I think we may get hung up on the word "struggle" too much. I think the key words are "acutely aware".

I copied this from Mandi Bierly's recap at EW Popwatch. She sums up perfectly what I feel about this:

"Being the
brilliant, cryptic man that he is, he informed Sweets that his premise
was completely wrong: Booth and Brennan are not opposites and they aren't sublimating the attraction they feel for one another because it would threaten their professional relationship. One of them is acutely aware of it and struggles with it daily. He wouldn't
say which one. Did he mean Booth or Brennan? I say the answer is
clearly Booth. Brennan knows that she respects, trusts, and cares for
Booth (and that he has sexy symmetrical features) but I don't think her
mind is ready to acknowledge her romantic feelings for him. In order
for her to feel Big Love, she has to believe it exists first. That's
what she's focused on: The idea of it instead of the idea that HE is
it. Booth, on the other hand, has been dealing with his feelings since
at least "The Baby in the Bough," when he let the "we" and "our" slip.
(Probably before. Remember how he reacted when Brennan kissed him on
the cheek when he let Russ visit his sick stepdaughter in the hospital
before arresting him? That little foot stomp. Swoon. There are so many
moments I could point to here...) And let's talk about that final scene
last night. He wouldn't have revealed that information about his past -- if it hadn't been for his grandfather, he probably would've killed himself as a kid (presumably to get away from his violent, alcoholic father) -- for anyone but her. And did you see the
way he looked down at the pocket over his heart when she put his
handkerchief back in it? Yes, her hand might've lingered, but he
reached his up to touch where hers had been and gave that look that
David Boreanaz gives so well. The kind you rewind to see again. He
knows how he feels. And he knows he can't rush her. And that's the struggle."

On a different note, I loved the case. I thought it was a logical, interesting, watertight case - something that is not a given.

And to the poster who asked about Angela and the concerts, I also understood it that she checked videos from a time period of 2 years and 60 concerts, not that she went herself.

Anonymous said...

I'm glad it seems something I always thought about Booth & Brennan was mentioned, which is that they are a lot alike, & I'm not only talking about their childhood but unfortunately English isn't my native language so I really don't know how to put all my thoughts together :( I should've paid more attention in English class.

cordy said...

I think the key words are ACUTELY aware and DAILY struggle. And I still think he meant Booth. That doesn't mean Brennan isn't aware or struggling. But come on, the man has deep feelings for his Bones but cares too much to rush her, because she isn't completely in touch with her own emotions. To complicate the matters further he totally has the hots for her.
GG wasn't so much talking about love but sexual attraction. Though this would at first glace indicate towards Brennan, I'm certain he was talking about Booth. Booth doesn't want to rush into a physical relationship with the love of his life when she isn't ready yet to connect emotionally.

Jeannie said...

Well said, Cordy. I completely agree.

Also, I was surprised at how well Sweets and GG worked together. I thought it would be like the clashing of 2 worlds but it really worked for the story.

Anonymous said...

If Sweets can tell Brennan about Booth's childhood & GG can tell Brennan & Booth about Sweets, why can Sweets tell Brennan & Booth about Zack ? Zack didn't tell Sweets during a session.

BatGIrl said...

Just an opinion.

Bones - Skeletons in the Closet?
http://community.livejournal.com/bones_spoilers/88180.html

Shep said...

This was so fricking amazing!!!
My favourite episode this season!

That ending - fantastic. It made me want to cry too! I loved Booth's expression and that he had tears in his eyes. And he touched his pocket after Brennan put the handkerchief back - I think Gordon Gordon was referring to him. Booth is aware of his feelings and is trying to hide them because he knows he can't rush things but it's frustrating for him. However I'm not sure that he's aware how deep his feelings really are: his protectiveness and the body language are just so natural it seems subconscious. Gordon Gordon did say 'at least', so I think he's referring to Booth because he's sure about him.
Brennan loves Booth, but still has to accept the idea of love and a monogamous romantic relationship. She might be slightly aware of the fact that she has feelings but at the moment she probably rationalises them. So I don't think she's aware of her feelings as 'love' yet.

The whole Sweets as a baby duck thing - awwww.
I too loved the line 'what are we, land of the misfit toys?'
And Booth quacking - I adored that!

Poor Sweets. He does see them as surrogate parents and it's why he's trying to get them to realise their feelings. I love the family within every member of the team and I also liked the scene in Brennan's office.

The way Brennan said skull in Norwegian cracked me up every time.

It was good to see Booth shoot something again! It's been too long now! It was hot.
The interrogation was brilliant too!

I hope they explore Booth's childhood more after this. 'If it wasn't for my grandfather I probably would've killed myself as a kid..' - I so wanted to give him a hug!
I hope this isn't the last we see of Gordon, Stephen Fry's dancing was awesome!

Once again ABSOLUTELY AMAZING EPISODE!! Emily and David were great! Writers - I love you again! (I checked, and these two writers only worked on the last few eppys)

Nina said...

i am thinking about 2 things:

1. booth is aware, and struggles daily. 100% obvious. bones is NOT aware although she struggles with something. but what keeps them apart, besides their being partners, is totally her rationalism and rejection of monogamy and marriage and losing oneself in love- if b&b were to get together it would have to be a real commitment. bones is totally honest and forthright all the time, she hits on booth and likes to push his buttons when it comes to sex. she was the one who without thinking said they probably wouldn't hang out if they werent partners, which really hurt booth. perotta called her out on her obliviousness, and after seeley left, and on the couch in 'cinderella', and many other times, booth has been assuring brennan that someday she will let herself be open to it and see it. 'you will', he kept repeating- and he so clearly means him. i think once brennan realises it then she will at least talk to angela, you know? we will know when she knows, because as this thing with sweets girlfriend demonstrated, she is much more honest and open with everything on her mind while booth thinks you 'can't go around saying whats on your mind all the time'-- which i thought was the biggest clue of all!!! besides the puppy eyes at the end and the now famous hanky moment. finally, i know i can't post spoilers here but brennan's actions later in the season too really i think demonstrate a lack of awareness of how feelings factor into their relationship.

2. So much sweets!! his love life and his past and his emotional weaknesses... these last two episodes i felt went to great lengths to further endear him to us. MY theory is that him being the only one who knows about zack's innocence is going to mean something big going down with that- how could it not? and at that point we need to either be rooting for sweets or loving him enough that we forgive him for his actions. because these brilliant brilliant writers and directors REALLY plan their stuff out.

what do you guys think?

Shep said...

Batgirl. Interesting idea about Skeletons in the closet and r.e the explanation of why B/B are so good for each other, I agree completely.

gilly8 said...

Hello, I hope my question is not out of topic. I am part of the team that makes Czech subtitles for Bones and we got stuck at one word. Its "supinator" - Cam says that the victim was supinator right after Clark says that he went on the outside of his feet. What does supinator mean? Thanks for help:-).

Pete said...

re: skeletons in the closet, batgirl...
this is my analysis:
from episode 1 we have been inundated with brennan and booth's psychology- how his history as a sniper and abusive childhood have made him the way he is, how her abandonmnt and foster care made her who she is, made them do what they do. we had two psychologists in this episode, and a book written about them, plus the fact that brennan writes books about her life and everyone then goes into analyzing their roles in the books, etc etc... basically, even though its a 'soft science', this show has always been crazy about psychology!

this past episode really did make a little family of misfit toys- we now know something about sweet's terrible childhood, and just as the show has been explaining b&b by way of how their past has shaped them, now GG has done the same for sweets, explaining how because of his past he has a good heart and wants to help people.

its this good heart that sweets has that brennan and booth have too, and like sweet's adoptive parents they have saved each other.

the only slight difference between this way of looking at it and the theory on batgirl's link-i think- is that, its not having a bad childhood that makes you compatable (otherwise sweets should be dating brennan) its the people that those childhoods have produced that are right for one another.

soooo much psychology!

Wendy said...

It's just a medical term for exactly that - walking in a manner that puts extra pressure on the outside of the foot.

http://www.runnersworld.com/article/0,7120,s6-240-319-326-435-0,00.html

Anonymous said...

i think if we're going to dissect the 'hanky' moment for who is acutely aware of their attraction then, besides booth's hand on the pocket and look in his eyes, the best clue was when sweets said he had saw what gordon had observed about the two of them, booth nearly jumped on him with 'are you coming?' and sweets kind of gave him a little bit of an understanding and apologetic look, kind of like 'can you shut up?" and 'sure'.

p.s. BEST. SHOW. EVER.

Anonymous said...

even when they kissed booth was freaking out and brennan just went for it. this dynamic has existed for eeeeevvverrrr.

jenny said...

wow!this comment thread is the longest ever,I think!What a great episode!This and some parts of the previous week's one reminded me why I fell in love with this show!
the subject has been overanalyzed by all of you and I've changed my opinion many times while I read the comments,but I think that who GG meant,or at least who Sweets understood,is Booth.Because he smiles (and B&B ask them why)right after he sees Booth reaching for Brennan's hand and he is looking at him,at Booth-and after that he says his line...
How is the baby squint doing,Wendy?The blog seems to be getting more and more attention and you deserve it-you've been doing a wonderful job here!

NorwegianBonesLover said...

Yep, you're definitely right about the task force guy, "Certainly", he spoke fluently and was obviously Norwegian.

The forensic anthropologist though, was clearly not a native speaker. I would say she had a slight swedish accent. I don't know if she was supposed to be Norwegian or not, she seemed like she tried really hard to sound Norwegian, but she didn't really succeed..

But then again, lots of Suedes and Danes work in Norway, so it wouldn't be that weird for someone like a forensic anthropologist in Norway to be Swedish. Like you mentioned, we can easily understand each other. Hm.. Doesn't really matter, though. What was hilarious, was Bones speaking Norwegian : )

Anonymous said...

the one who struggles is Booth, did you see his face when bones got the handkit on his pocket???? inmediately Sweets looks at him and laughts...check the scene and you will see...

lorapalmer said...

I read through all of the comments above and your thoughts about this episode really helped me understand some of the things I have been unsure about and I think literally everything about B&B has been said.

This was a very, VERY great episode, with a very long ending scene!!! Like 5 minutes long after the case has been closed! That is so rarely I cannot even think about one before.

And did Booth REALLY said the words 'glee club'? That was sooooo 'let's-hype-the-new-Fox show', it screamed. (To me at least). But in a good way, because I did not see that coming and cracked me up. Well, every scene with Gordon Gordon was brilliant, him going to be a chef - a whole lotta possibilities!

Eagerly waiting for next episode!

batgirl-11 said...

Shep, thank you very much. :)



Pete. Wow, thank you for the wonderful insight into psychology. I totally got what you were trying to say. :)





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Angela said...

Wow! I knew this was going to be an amazing episode, but it was even better than I expected! The return of Gordon Gordon... absolutely great! I hope it was not the last time we saw him but I think it was. And Sweets, oh I like that guy always more! He's so cute and sweet ;-) I had tears in my eyes during the last scene, it was awesome and they are all wonderful actors! and Booth's hand, yes, he was trying to take hers and he looked so sad when she pulls it away. Their eyes are always so deep and emotional, they always make me melt! About GG's theory... Booth looks like the one who's most aware of his feelings, but Brennan definitely is figuring them out too and she struggles with them.
Great episode! I really like those last episodes! Can't wait for the next ones!
PS: It is great to have this blog to talk about Bones, because it looks like that among my friends I'm the only one who's so obsessed with this amazing tv show :-))
And congratulations Wendy!! ^^

Anonymous said...

Nina, you got it. i totally love your analysis point #1.

Anonymous said...

To Gabriella: Since you are Norwegian, what do you think of the uniforms in the opening scene? I'm swedish an to me they do not seem northen at all, in fact it looks like Robocop to me!

Ralph, from Sweden

christinaof94 said...

Wow, 135+ comments. This episode was THAT amazing. I'm not going to get much into it, because everything I will say has probably already been said. :)

Anonymous said...

I think it's Bones who Gordon was refering to. When Bones puts the hankie in Booth's pocket, she has a knowing look on her face. It's Booth who seems surprised by the contact and is unsure on how to process it. Also, Bones is the more rational one, she has probably identified that she has a physical attraction to Booth but because of obvious proffessional reason cannot act on it. She would be the one to think the rational thing to do would be to hide her feelings, while if it were Booth he would be more inclined to follow his heart.

On a different note, some asked what the original title of Sweets was. It was "Opposites Attract: Yin and Yang in the Work Place."

-VeganValkyrie

Gigi said...

Woohoo! Someone that finally agrees with me! :D I have said this several times but I think the episode before Cinderella in the Cardboard really forshadowed what GG said to Sweets and to me there are things that come up in the sides of future episodes that support my theory but I won't divulge (Ack! My husband hates the fact that I read spoilers because I sometimes have a hard time not telling him!)

pbn said...

For the record, an annual 0.7 murder rate for Norway works out to about 33 murders a year.

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