Saturday, April 11, 2009

Yahoo TV Blog/TWOP: Unhappy with Bones

This post on the Yahoo TV blog (actual from Television without Pity, which explains a lot) is a bit of a rant. It involves some big spoilers, and some strong lack of knowledge about some show aspects that even the anti-spoiler people know (like David Boreanaz HAD to be light on one episode so he could prep to direct the next one).

Do you think these criticisms are fair? Do you agree/disagree with some, all? What do you think about the current direction of the show?

**Beware of comments - spoiler posts mean spoiler comments!**

Thanks, Meghna, for the heads up!

16 comments:

N2seeleyBooth said...

I commented after that artical that all he/she is saying is their opion doesn't mean anything my opion of american idol is not shared by all the people who watch it. I love Bone funny, sad, goofy doesn't matter the cast and writers are able to make me laugh or cry and keep me wanting more. I have liked every season and every direction its gone in, sorry to say even making Zack loony

Shep said...

I agree with the points about continuity errors, it's annoying and disspointing when the writers slip-up and the fact that Brennan seems a little off but some of those points are unfair. I for one, loved Salt in the Wounds, oddball cases are good, but the episodes have more of an impact if the cases are a bit more normal: we can sympathise more, and I loved the ending of that eppy.

I don't mind the interns much, they're interesting and I agree with what Jenny said in the 'Science' discussion about the writers spreading Zack's personality traits among some of the interns. I would like to see a resolve to the Zack-not-actually-killing-anyone thing though.

And 'Princess' was only because David was directing the next one. I think we'll be getting an explanation as to what's up with the hallucinations but I can understand why fans are freaked about the latest one.

The tone of this season has been so much lighter then previously and there's a lot more goofing. I think a lot of fans just want to see a return to the much loved episodes which made us laugh, squeal at B/B-ness, and where the nature of the cases touched us emotionally. I for one, would like to see Booth be all hardass and threaten someone again!

I also think that the producers have been looking at the ratings more than what is actually being said about each episode and so are becoming more confident about what they're doing.

sammy said...

I wanted to post a comment on the site but I couldn't so i'll just do it here.
I had to agree with what the article said about the ill consistancy with details and Brennan's character does seem some what contradictive this season but Emily doesn't fail. Sometimes I just don't get it.
It is still my favourite show to date though, so I don't really care. At the end of the day I like to be entertained and Bones does just that. Stewie or no stewie.

First time post by the way!

Anonymous said...

I love Bones, but truthfully I agree with most of the points in the article. Brennan has been out of character lately as if they brought in new writers who don't know how to portray her. And there have been some major continuity errors, like the fact that every season Brennan acts surprised when she finds out that Booth reads her books (he's said that he has in at least 3 different seasons). The thing I like best about Bones is that they mix the humor with the sentiment and the serious well, but lately I've just been seeing goofy and over played. I miss Bones from seasons 1-3.

Triveni said...

i kinda agree with him on certain points and vehemently disagree on others....in my opinion this season so far has not been up to the marks...say the standards set by bones in season 2(which in my opinion has been the best season)...but still it has been one of my favorite shows and will continue to be so....

on his article though...i hv to agree the hallucinations seems to be a little ridiculous..i mean i was totally ok with the FitI hallucination..but HotH was a bit of a dissapointment(then again thats my opinion) and if the upcoming spoilers are anything to go buy..i cant help but feel apprehensive as to how they r gonna pull this stuff off!!!!


i actually love the whole intern rotation thing..cuz Zack is irreplaceable... as Hodgins says it in the soccer-mom epi..."the best you can do is to find sum1 who can help you around"...which is what the writers seem to be doin...

well we all know DB needed time to direct TBtF so was completely ok with Perotta coming in...

again i hv to agree Brennan seems to be a bit OOC in this season..she has been quite rude when it comes to Booths intelligence when shes alrdy acknowledged and admired his expertise AND intelligence in the previous episodes(though she does redeem herself at the end of that particular episodes)...and again her baby desire wud be OOC too if its done all of a sudden(which is what it seems as the spoilers indicate)...

and the inconsistencies really do unnerve me as well but thats sumthing i tend to overlook..so no problems there....

All in all Bones still continues to be my favourite and i dont see myself loosing interest in it at all...but i do agree it needs to shape up a little...

juniors said...

TwoP is the stupidest website ever. No one should read their reviews or articles because all they do is rant and don't know what they're talking about. They don't write good reviews for any of the shows I watch, and the message boards are horrible. There's a difference between being snarky and being downright horrible, but TwoP seems to think its the same thing.

I didn't even read this Bones article, but I felt like warning anyone who's never been to TwoP before.

Prime Minister3 said...

Although I agree with many of the points that the post mentions, I still enjoy watching Bones. Some things bother me less than others, but it really bothers me that they are trying to show the changes Brennan is going through after working so long with Booth, but it just seems out of character. Of course she is capable of becoming mellower, but often, just to keep her from becoming too much so, they throw in lines that make her mean, which I don't believe is their intention.

Anonymous said...

This post is okay. I lump all of the Booth stuff together (sans the Princess in the Pear) because I believe it's on purpose (I don't want to "spoil" anyone, so I hope that's sufficiently vague) and withhold judgment for now, although I'm worried about a certain coming event. The revolving interns aren't my thing, but it's dead-on about the continuity errors and especially Brennan's character being all screwed up this season. The episode with the Muslim intern (whose only defining characteristic is that he's Muslim...grrrr) was almost unwatchable for this reason. It's like the writers haven't even seen the first and second seasons! [Gets off soapbox]

It's All Magic said...

I absolutely agree with any points regarding continuity in Bones' story arc. It's really, really annoying that the writers can't be bothered to remember their own scripts.

But to the "hallucinations"...(and the ghost on that ship was not an hallucination. Brennan and he spoke to each other at the cemetery. I guess the guy reviewing Bones missed that.

But anyhow...As someone who has spent most of her life living in both sides of her brain...I'd like to suggest a possibility: that the writers of Bones are trying to balance the empirical tendencies of science with the magic of imagination.

The thing is...you cannot form an hypothesis without first imagining that something is so.

What some might consider to be fanciful may well be real. Who's to say what is actually real? It cannot be that which we can touch, feel, or hear. We already know now that mice, giraffes, and elephants talk to each other in frequencies we do not hear. Insects, reptiles, and birds see in frequencies we do not see.

We cannot say that spirits do not walk (float?) with us everyday. We cannot say that there are not other critters interacting in the balance of our ecosystem, just because we cannot perceive them or have not yet invented some machine that can.

I'll stop now. The last thing I mean to do is start some essay on how ignorant we all are about our universe...and how narrow the reviewer's POV might be.

I think the writers might be on to something...I just hope they're up to the task.

Lauren said...

That article was half irritating/wrong and half right-on in my opinion.

Like most of the previous comments, the continuity errors are just ridiculous. I know they're doing some things for the comedic effect (Brennan being unable to drive the sports car), but the fact that they're sacrificing canon to do it is just stupid.

And I also agree that sometimes Brennan has been really OOC, and if not OOC then really mean (her comments about Angela's and Booth's intelligence?) She has outright said, to Booth, that she doesn't think he's stupid (Intern in the Incinerator), so why can't she say it in The Science in Physicist?

And while this season is definitely lighter than the other 3, which isn't necessarily a bad thing, the amount of goofy-ness they're throwing in just makes me cringe. I mean, Booth (especially) and the other characters can be funny without being stupid-goofy, so why force it?

As for the rest, the rotating interns is kind of fun, though I wish they'd whittle it down to 3 or so. And the whole "Booth keeps getting injured" thing is just crap because we know what's going on.

luscious said...

I dont have much of a problem with most of the points that irk this bones fan. The one thing that bothers me is the inconsistency in the writingmost of the other stuff seems to have some sort of meaning behind it.
In relation to Booth's health I have always found that when your body is run down more things go wrong and although it all fits in with future story lines the sore back could be because he is run down.
As Bones and the sports car goes I work as a driver and jump from one car to another and in terms of sports cars have found them all to be different in one way or another so not being able to drive a sports car means nothing.
I agree in some respects to her character being off a bit. I found her lack of respect for a persons religion disturbing but at the same point she has never really shown booth's catholicism any level of respect. Also the praying was getting in the way of work which did not go down well with brennan.
I dont believe that Bones is losing the greatness and science showed that this week as can be seen by the comments in the live thoughts. The rotating interns are there for a reason and I think this may have something to do with the return of zack on some level. I know I cant wait till the next episode and the ability to keep us wanting more is why in my opinion Bones is the best show on the planet.

sammy said...

Just followed the other comments and eveyone makes really great points, especially with Brennan's character. I really agree with Luscious on this one though. I do trust that the producers know what their doing, they just need to check over the scripts before they put it in play, because if they have different writers then their not following the story.

Milky said...

I also think that the producers have been looking at the ratings more than what is actually being said about each episode and so are becoming more confident about what they're doing. --Shep

That's exactly my opinion. But I also think they're listening to us if only a bit, because my impression is they're trying to explain some of the things I(we) cringed about during the first eps of the season. E.g., Booth's goofiness. They explained it was because he wanted to let Bren feel more intelligent that he was.

The only thing that really bothers me is the continuity errors, but those I can overlook for a while yet. The rest is, to me, them trying to find the balance between the comedy and the ol' Bones style. And, as far as the last couple of eps are concerned, I think they're doing it great.

And, as I've said before, to me it's still about the evolving of the series. They're all so close now that their interactions have changed--- and will still be changing. The writers are still trying to find the balance between it all. And I'm willing to give them some space... as long as they don't disappoint in the end!

Anonymous said...

I really don't agree with Brennan acting out of character. She's changing; people change! She's learning to be comfortable and not take everything, including herself, so seriously, and Booth is teaching her how! I don't think it's so unbeliviable that she's funnier and changing views on things. It's what happens to a person when they meet someone (Booth, in Brennan's case) that make them see the world a little differently.

I think that no matter what happens, it's best just to remember how wonderful a show Bones really is! Yes, it is perfectly okay to be frustrated sometimes with the continuity errors and things like that, but it's BONES! It is one of very few quality TV shows that does everything it can to put out a wonderful episode each week.

Anonymous said...

the only thing I agree with are the continuity errors but not as much as others have said above..As luscious said,not all sports cars are the same, so this didn't bother me at all,not for a second.And I agree with anon above me,there are certainly some things that feel different about Brennan because she has changed after she met(and loved,if I may say so)Booth-some of the sharp edges of her character seem softer and smoother now and she has learned to open up..She has evolved.
But evolution is about becoming better.Which is exactly the reason why I can't accept some other inconsistencies about her character like "I suck at interrogations" and "I lack empathy"-after we've seen her empathetic side more than once even from S1(A boy in a bush,in the interrogation room with that little blond boy-The woman in the garden,with those immigrants from South America and her asking Booth not to make her add more fear in that woman's life with the baby in her arms) or in S3 (The secret in the soil)or S2(Stargazer in a puddle); and after we've seen her succesful attempts in the interrogation room (Titan on the trucks,where SHE tells Booth what to do to catch the bad guy,Intern in the Incinerator etc).And her respect towards Booth was clear at that scene at the diner in Wannabe in the weeds. Nothing_but_Bones has managed to express these points better than me in her video(http://bonestube.ning.com/video/an-ode-to-temperance-brennan) although I do not agree with all of her comments (I can certainly see where Brennan is coming from when she lets herself believe Jared,for example,but it would take a whole other post to explain my views on that).
I think all these are partly unintentional because the writers are trying to find a new balance,with the new direction the show is slowly taking (especially after the season finale) but also partly intentional because they are trying to delay things a little bit,in order to hold things back until the finale..I hope I'm wrong about the latter though..
What I do know for sure,though, and what I completely agree on with Nothing_but_Bones is what she says at the end of her video: the writers should thank their lucky stars that Emily is so incredibly talented...she has managed to put everything together impressively well and without her these things would have done much more harm to the show...

Ms. Feasance said...

Angel Cohn has actually been Bones's biggest cheerleader at TWoP. For her to be upset is kind of huge.

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