Thursday, February 4, 2010

Episode Discussion - The Devil in the Details

Episode discussion for:

Bones, Season 5, Episode 14
The Devil in the Details

Please, please, PLEASE -

NO SPOILERS FOR FUTURE EPISODES!

Please, do not say "wow, that must be what leads to..." or "well, that won't last because Hart Hanson said that 2 episodes from now she will..." or whatever. I will have to delete any comments that include spoilers for future episodes or download links.

Other than that, please discuss away, every aspect of this episode. Disagreements, as long as you are respectful, are more than welcome!!

64 comments:

Christana said...

Good episode. One thing that stood out to me, was that Brennan needs SEX bad. Did you notice how excited she was when the patient who she thought was a doctor came on to her? OMG!!! HART get her a man.

Rolywa said...

I really liked this episode! Not much in terms of B&B but a good case. I love mental institution mysteries:)

Anonymous said...

I liked the episode and i really liked the discussion at the end. Bones is slowly accepting everything about Booth that she couldn't before (love, religion, family... in the near future marriage probably), which means that they are getting closer and closer because those things are what really stood in the way of them getting together. But I wish they would have given us a little more quality time with bones and booth. i didn't expect them to kiss or anything, but come one! 8 weeks is a long time people. I would have liked a little more something to tide me over. oh well. at least i can look forward to it getting good! april is my new favorite month!

Anonymous said...

Meh
mainly because Booth was missing from most of the episode. sweets is taking over the role of the "heart" of the team. i don't like it.

Dani said...

I have to say.. i absolutely loved that inmate/patient psychologist, they guy that played him did so in such a fantastic way... what a great actor!!

Enjoyed the ep.. but then again I always do enjoy my bones... im so easy :D

Courtney said...

I liked this episode the best of the season - I really thought the psychiatrist (the real one) added depth to the whole episode - very well acted.

I can't believe that this is what DB thought was "wooing" this season - they really have completely eliminated the sexual tension and that just makes no sense to me at all. Yes, they are closer and more comfortable with each other but so what? Sexual tension doesn't disappear just because you become closer if you still haven't become intimate - I find it a really odd choice Hart made with this direction.

I was very much into them getting together in the first 4 seasons based on the intense chemistry and now I really don't care.

I'd be fine if they stayed just friends because that is all I'm getting from them - yes, she has absorbed and accepted some of Booth's perceptions and thinking and vice versa but that doesn't mean much more than they have become good friends - to me. That happens all the time with people who work so closely together.

But, for me, this was well written and directed and acted and for that, I am very happy because I've been pretty disappointed with the season so far.

I hope the remainder of the season is of this caliber.

Anonymous said...

I loved booth's response to how brennan sees the world.. instead of lecturing her or correcting her, he seemed to capture how valid brennan's point is.

It is great the apologizing part. Bones recognizes the psychiatrists' job and gets its value. It's obviously a way to show the path of self-improving she has been walking, this is also shown i guess when she gets booth's job.

I loved that writers re-took the closeness with the victims, the suspects and other characters involved

As always, the show leaves many things in the air about B&B relationship and putting this episode in perspective, i think it's a great and important one.

Anonymous said...

Totally agree, Courtney.
This was one of those quiet gems of an episode, for all the reasons you listed. Just ... seamless and classy and well well done. So much so that it may get over looked at first. But on second and third looks this episode will shine and other more flashier ones will fade.

historynut

Pheealzabub said...

@ 9:27 Anon: I don't think Sweets is "taking over" - I think that Booth recognized that both he and Brennan were out of their element to a certain degree at the institution with the patients and Dr. Copeland and put Sweets on point in an environment he was more familiar with than either B or B.(kudos to Booth for that - possibly listening to his gut as a cop and a combat unit leader?). Single episode anomaly.

What I did find a bit curious was the lack of protest on Brennan's part when Booth backed Sweets on keeping her out of the interrogation of Nivia (painter Angel girl). The Brennan of old would have put up quite the argument. Mellowing? More confident in Booth's and maybe even Sweets' (*gasp*) abilities concerning people?

Anonymous said...

I don't think bones is just accepting everything booth believes in. I think they both are reaching a common ground in topics that looked opposite at first. i.e. the faith. we can see that they respond the same way (trusting in what they believe in) to different situations (god and logic)

Anonymous said...

i was talking with my roommate about the tension of seasons 1-4 today and the lack of it in season 5 and how it related to what gordon-gordon said about one of them being in love and dealing with it daily. i really think they relate to each other in the fact that booth was always the really flirty one or the one with the amazing and stunning monologues about people being meant for one another. he didn't know he was in love with bones. maybe sub-consciously he was but he didn't think about it. when a man and woman are friends, usually the more subdued one is the one with all of the feelings because they have to hide them. booth wasn't subdued around her because he wasn't aware of his feelings. bones was. but now that he has realized this and with everyone hitting over the head with the idea that bones would freak if he told her too soon, he has MAJORLY backed off. i agree that the have completely cut off the tension and it leaves things kind of dry, but that is what happens, i think, when friends are in love and finally realize it. sorry this is incredibly long. just wanted to share a theory.

Jeannie said...

I'm a bit undecided on this one. First off, I think this would have made a great Halloween episode. And I think it was a bad decision on Fox' part to hype this as a "winter finale". It clearly was never meant to be one or else there would have been something a little more groundshaking going on (I hope).

Also, I'd like to point out that there's got to be a more creative way of introducing the murderer as making him/her the first person who gets introduced with the case. Please, get more creative again, show! The same formula was applied in Dentist in the Ditch.

I liked the case but I found it odd that certain aspects of the case were suddenly abandoned. Like the blond girl claiming to be an angel - after she accused herself of murder, she was never seen again. And what about the Christmas roses? They were made to appear an important clue but after seeing them at the institution, they were never talked about anymore. Not to mention how and why the brother took the body to the church. Seems to me that he would have had a much better hiding place in that basement (but that wouldn't have given us such a spectacular case so I'll give them this one).

Grossest thing ever? That shot of Cam showing the inflamed toes. It really made me sick a little, especially when Cam pointed out the smell. Makes you wonder why the people at the institution didn't pick up on that. EWWWWWWWWW!

I thought they were working quite a few cliches with that institution - the dark hallways, the rain, the patient trying to escape when BB and Sweets arrive. Fortunately, they didn't go the "the doctors torture the patients in the basement"-route, though.

As for Brennan, I did like that she was very much in character. Everything she said and did felt very Brennan. However, I rolled my eyes at her attitude in the beginning. Not because they still have her being so insensitive towards Booth's beliefs and faith but mainly because only last week the writers made her give an emotional speech about how she's come to realize that Booth's beliefs might not be wrong after all and how she's trying to accept that. Granted, she was talking about love back then but can we at least pretend last week's episode happened, please? That really annoyed me. I felt she should have been more respectful by now.

I did like a lot how the scene with the doctor played out. She really needed somebody to make her see my point! ;-) And I liked the fact that she really did apologize this time. I found that a sign of real growth.

I hope she gives the fact that she was so taken by the doctor who really was an inmate some serious thought. That was rather telling, no? ;-)

As for Aristoo - can we please drop the lame storyline that every time he appears he's suspected of terrorism? That is such an offensive cliche. And while the scene between him and Cam was very nicely acted, I find it sad that the writers felt they had to give him such an emotional backstory in order to get rid of the prejudism. And why was Cam suddenly so shy of confronting him about it after promising Hodgins she would?

As for the final scene, the jury is still out on that one. It felt so... disconnected from the rest of the episode. Like put in for a cute moment. Hm. It definitely wasn't the return of the UST some of us were hoping for.

Courtney said...

It may be what happens when some friends fall in love - but it doesn't happen that way for everyone. The sexual tension wasn't one sided, just from Booth - it was from both of them.

Often when friends fall in love and realize it, the sexual tension goes through the roof - so, I don't get this concept at all...having been there twice.

Maybe it's just me and everyone I know - because I've never seen it play out like this.

I think HH needed to dial it back because he had no intention of getting them together this season.

I don't think it is a case of them simply believing everything the other does; I think it has been a slow awakening to another person's beliefs. When you respect and trust someone you are more likely to be open to shifting your thinking about various aspects of life.

Anonymous said...

a one the hell of a theory!!!

thanks for that

Rachel said...

Good episode in my opinion. I do feel that there was a little too much going on though. They should have made the episode longer or cut some of it out. I also feel that the ending, finding out who the killer was, wrapped up way too quickly.
Oh well, still a very excellent episode :)

Anonymous said...

good little episode.
The shipper side of me felt a little underwhelmed though.
We should have gotten more BB moments to keep us going through the hiatus :(

Maggy said...

I didn't like this episode... but I guess I'm in the minority.

1) I was not impressed we were hearing the same ole crap Brennan dishes out towards Booth's religion. If they were going to do this AGAIN there should have been some change in heart. Not necessarily a conversion but at least a respect and understanding from her... but I have a feeling the next time religion comes up we'll be back to the blasphemous comments from her.
2) The case was all over the place. And yeah, I wondered what happened to the Angel girl... and shoe laces??? Thats how they catch the guy after all this other stuff they drop on us!?
3) I thought they could be more original with the girl who played the angel. It irked me she was blond and beautiful :P So they were pretty much saying she believed herself to be an angel cause she looked like one???? pfft
4) Once again I felt like we went nowhere in Booth and Bones relationship limbo! And I agree... there's literally NOTHING there... no sparks... I saw a brief look from Booth in the car I think it was that reminded me of the way he use to look at her. But yeah. Nothing.

And I strongly disagree that it was Brennan who Gordon believed to be aware of their feelings. In order for her to be aware, IMO, she'd have to believe in love. And I forget what was said between Sweet and Gordon this season that made me think once again that it was Booth. But it was there...*tries to remember and fails* Anyway Booth's the feeler... he'd be the one to know his true feelings.

Anonymous said...

maybe when normal friends fall in love the tension rises because of the anticipation of something coming from it. but with bones and booth, i think they are more afraid of something happening between them than excited. the tension definitely came from both. i agree. but i think when booth backed off, there was nothing for bones to be tense about. they are afraid of ruining their partnership, so neither will speak up about their feelings. after last week i thought there would be some major tension, because i'd hoped booth might see that as a green light from bones, but maybe he still thinks she doesn't love him. he would be an idiot, but he's been one before. i think something is going to happen to bring it back to the forefront though. i hope :)

Anonymous said...

I'm getting really tired of all the Aristoo Hijinks - he's been an intern with the Jeffersonian for quite some time, he should have earned their trust by now. Like a poster above me commented, his co-workers' constant overreactive suspicions are frankly offensive.

If "Hilarious Misunderstanding/Unfounded Paranoia" is the only plot the writers can come up with for Aristoo, then I think it's time for him to call it a day. It's uninteresting.

Stephanie said...

I really disagree that Brennan would've had to believe in love for it to be her that Gordon was talking about. He said one of them was aware of and struggling with their attraction. Attraction does not equal love. But, even if it does, wouldn't that make it MORE of a case for it to be Brennan? If Brennan didn't believe in love but knew she had feelings towards Booth, one would think that would cause some major internal struggling with those feelings. The question of who they were talking about will probably never be answered, though.

I loved the last scene of this episode. That's exactly why I love Booth and Brennan. They're extremely different but very similar at the same time, and they're okay with that.

I think Brennan does respect Booth's beliefs. She's never once tried to get him to abandon his religious beliefs. She comments on religion in general and she's asked questions about his personal beliefs, but she doesn't try to talk him out of it. And he's dished out some comments to her on a few occasions, too. I'd personally be pretty upset if they stopped having Brennan make her comments about religion. That's Brennan, and, really, compared to their past religious episodes, she was dialed down quite a bit tonight. But kudos to the writers for having the guts to let Brennan say those things on TV. I don't think most shows would do that.

I was okay with Arastoo's story because it got us the story about his past in Iraq, which was great character development for him, and it brought about the funny line about Hodgins wearing a t-shirt to work that said "I'm with the Great Satan." He would totally have a shirt like that.

I agree that this would've been a fantastic Halloween episode!

Tara said...

I loved LOVED the fact that Bones bought a Prius. It really bothered me that they drove around so much in Booth's SUV. Plus, she gets to do the driving now.

I kinda wonder if part of Brennen's intense dislike of psychologists may have something to do with her being in the foster system. I was removed from my father's home when I was 16, and I had to go see one. But I really don't know if that is standard or not.

I liked the episode. Though I really wanted to see Hodgins with a HUGE welt on his face. It would have been funny to see him try to explain that.

Batina said...

I had a few good laughs this episode, but overall I have to say I feel a bit let-down between this week and last. After watching The Proof in the Pudding I was excited that Bones was getting back on track. I miss the episodes with all the sarcastic remarks and funny interplay between characters. And the tension between Booth and Brennan has completely evaporated. I agree with a previous poster that question about the "wooing" of Bones that I thought we were suppose to be seeing?

Normally I love hearing Bones's religious commentary, but it didn't seem like she had anything new to say...yawn. And Ditto with the Aristoo guy...yawn. I'll keep my fingers crossed that Bones comes back strong in April, but this episode sure didn't leave me on the edge of my seat :(

Jessica said...

Very good episode, I liked the part where the Dr. sets Brennan straight about the work he does at the institute and to see Brennan appologize to him, also her reaction when she finds out the other dr. is a patient she really liked him and the way he was coming on to her, loved the case and the end scene now I have to go and figure out how to survive this 8 week hiatus ugh the thought alone is killing me :(

pierceb37 said...

I think this was quite concistent episode in the big picture of this season. Booth had his brain rewired and now he has to deal with it. How he feels and sees things different way and how he tries to get back to 'normal' whatever the 'normal' is with his rewired brain. It necessarily doesn't mean he thinks and feels the sameway as he did before the surgery. He looks to be quit scared about this. I understand that fan's of THE Alpha Male Booth aren't too happy about it.

The car:
Brennan drives and Booth is the passenger. Quite clear because it's the way they are in their relationship too. Brennan opens her locks and takes some of Booth's ideas and accepts some other (not taking those as her's).
Booth is the passenger because of the rewiring.

The end:
Very good end because religion and faith are big things and can cause problems. I suppose now they both know and accept what the other part thinks. Again not replacing the own idea by the idea of the other part, but accepting that he/she may think in a different way.

Hodgins and nunchucks:
'What are your? A Persian ninja?
- LMAO

Aristoo (& Cam):
Not sure if it was good or bad.


One other thing about Sweets and Gorgon Gordon and the question about who's feeling something about the other. I guess it was said to be something else than a 'love' issue.
Anyway Sweets said that he noticed something when Brennan put a handkerchief to Booth's pocket in his coat and Booth tapped the pocket right after that.

Well, I'm no shrink but I couldn't figure out of how he could've seen who was having feelings for who.

Obviously people have seen it two different ways because the discussion still goes on about it.

Anonymous said...

I haven't seen this episode yet because I am outside of the US, but I wanted to pick up on the comments that this season does seem to have lost the UST, I agree and feels just way to 'comfy' btw B & B like an old married couple this season, to the point I now refer to NCIS for some good 'ole' UST. Go TIVA.

Courtney said...

I have always thought Sweets' comment about seeing what Gordon Gordon saw after the handkerchief moment was in response to Gordon's comment that B&B were not opposites, but actually very similar in some ways.

I never thought it was about who was struggling with their feelings for the other.

The show is getting better ratings than ever so I'm guessing HH is not going to make any changes even if some fans - including me - are disappointed overall with this season and the B&B dynamic.

Anonymous said...

I agree Courtney, I always thought that comment was more about them being alike than the sexual attraction.
I liked this episode, the murder itself was more a part of the story than last week, I just wish the actual solving at the end did't feel so rushed. But I agree that there weren't enough B&B moments. Why wasn't Brennan in the interrogation room like she used to always be? Although I did love that Booth let her drive and their joking around about the GPS was cute.
I think the last scene wasn't about them changing for each other but more about their willingness to accept the other person as they are, which is more of a step for Brennan.
Hopefully when April 1st comes, Life will be good again!

Anonymous said...

I found this episode soooo boring. Zilch emotions, of any type.

Booth has disappeared, David is switched off and almost all scenes would have been the same even without him.

I love this season, but this episode was very poor in my opinion.

olivia said...

I have to say I am surprised so many people liked this episode, after watching last night, I had expected no good reviews. But I do love you guys and your positive comments have made me a bit more postive about it.

My first thought is how rushed it was. The end just came so quickly with so many loose ends. It was difficult to even determine how they determined who the killer was. You just didn't see the thought process on that. And i agree with the above comments: what happened to angel girl? And what was with the Christmas roses? And why did the brother put his shoes back on and set him on fire in the church? A little closure would be awesome!

Regarding Aristoo- huh? Can we please give him a bit more dimension! How about a non-religious based story for him. And Hodgins and Cam...seriously? Can they really be that ignorant? All that "us" and "them" talk. Aristoo is American, too. I agree with others, it is offensive!

While the last scene was not the shipper fest i wanted, it was nice to see them finding they are not so different after all. In DitD, Booth said "we see the world in two different ways", but now we can see they are not so opposite.

For my fellow X philes: love seeing XF guest stars- the Priest was Mr. Pincus from "Folie a Duex" and the mom was the bus driver from "Roadrunners". Anyway...just had to geek out there for a second :)

Anonymous said...

I always have to re-watch the episode to get a second take on it. But, here is my opinion after watching only once. Not enough Brennan in the lab. Honestly not sure why she was needed in the field and can't believe she missed out on an opportunity to really check out this unique body in the lab. Booth went conveniently missing during a few scenes at the Psych ward? Where was he?? I felt the whole episode was not played out smoothly, it skipped around too much. The ending was very rushed with very little details. And, again with the first guy we see being the killer. They should change that up some, becoming to predictable. I think for the last episode until April 1st they could have given us more quality BB moments. Does anyone else hate they way they are styling Emily's hair?? Right now it only looks good when she wears it up in that bun of hers!! I will have to watch this again to see if I missed things, but really not much excitement for me in this episode!!

Rolywa said...

@Olivia-

I noticed about The X Files guest stars too! And for the life of me I couldn't figure out which episode the mom was from...but I knew it was a Season 8 episode with a lot of Scully in it...thanks for the clarification:)

Anonymous said...

Agree with the latest comments--I did not care for this episode very much, especially going into an 8 week (gulp) hiatus...too many cliches, not enough quality B & B moments, rushed ending, choppy storyline, loose ends, etc, etc. Loved the last two episodes so much. Last week's ending was so good. This week not so much. This is picky, but I really dislike Emily's hair when it is down this season, too. Her hair pulled back is OK, but when it is down it looks awful...in my opinion...she is so beautiful, but that doesn't always come through this season. Another random thought--I wish there would be some continuity from episode to episode. B & B had such sweet moments in the last 2 episodes, and I wish they could build upon that. Felt like this episode could have been any 2 crime solving partners...could be wrong...do have to watch this again...

Maggy said...

To me it always appeared Booth was struggling more with his attraction to her... that he was always super aware of it. With this looks and his speeches and him trying to get her to believe in love and all that... Brennan has always been aloof to me about it and just plain not getting the whole picture like she usually does when its matters of the heart.

I hope they never answer it then because if I am wrong, FOR ME, the earlier seasons wont be as fun to watch. Cause I always viewed it as Brennan just completely unaware and it was funny to me.

Anonymous said...

People seem divided on this episode. I personally, didn't care for it. Too scattered around, rushed ending, too many open ended scenes (angel girl, Christmas roses). It was like the writers just threw it together to get it done, As for the lack of Booth in the episode, who knows. Brennan not in the interrogation room with Sweets was totally fitting, given her opinion if his craft and the setting. That all said and done, I am still very concerned about David Boreanaz. Either he is doing something for an upcaoming roll, or he is ill. He hasn't looked well for a while. Don't get me wrong, he is still quite easy on the eyes:), but he looks ill.

Anonymous said...

I found this episode very disappointing- in particular, I was annoyed with the way that they portrayed people with mental health issues. Booth's reactions and comments, along with the big, creepy asylum building just feeds negative stereotypes about those who suffer from mental health conditions. Bones is usually quite enlightened about the way they represent things but this was an offensive approach to this particular issue. They had a chance to really advocate on this and try to enlighten the viewing public about the reality of the subject and all they did was insult people who are affected by mental health issues and those who work as advocates and supports for them. Very disappointing. In addition to that, I thought the episode itself was very weak and did not offer much. The only moment I really enjoyed was Hodgins and his experiment- that was classic Bones!

Ferdy said...

@anon 11:18, I wholeheartedly echo your concern for David Boreanaz... His thinner appearance combined with his quiet, flat demeanor is cause for worry - Ever since TGOTG He's totally lost all of his screen presence, energy, and chemistry with his co-stars... He's not Booth in these episodes anymore, he's just David Boreanaz looking depressed.

Now, I can kind of get on board with the argument that Booth is going through a lot right now, and DB's quiet, toneless, portrayal is deliberate. But I would be more comfortable with it if the other characters noticed or discussed it in some way - Instead, everyone goes on their merry way and gives me reason to worry.

I hope this gets addressed soon, because Booth really isn't Booth anymore, he's just... like a really skinny version of Angel.

Courtney said...

Agree about DB playing this flat and the lack of chemistry between him and anyone in the ensemble.

I know Angela a few months ago remarked that Booth seemed sad but I don't know if that can account from such lackluster scenes.

I just watched a season four episode the other day and holy cow, his energy in every scene was beaming off the screen - even in the quiet, calm moments.

Who knows? And, we will probably never know because no one on that set is ever going to admit anything like this is happening - but, everyone I know who has loved this show since the beginning has noticed it and certainly a lot of folks here as well, so I don't think we are all seeing something that isn't there.

But, between the lack of energy and incredible weight loss - he is more ways than one a shadow of his previous Booth personification and I miss early, kick ass, funny, emotional Booth -

Anonymous said...

This episode felt really off to me, for most of the reasons listed above -

I thought that the case was handled really poorly... It was rushed and messy, and, I thought, pretty hastily wrapped up at the end - Did anyone else feel like it was really inappropriate for Sweets to describe the murder in such detail to the mother? I know that was a way to let the viewers know how things went down, but I don't think it was necessary to be so brutally honest with the victim's loved ones - Booth usually handled this matter with great sensitivity... I thought Sweets would have the sense to be more tactful.

The Aristoo plot is overdone and ends up making Cam and Hodgins look ignorant and intolerant EVERY TIME.

One thing I really did like was the psychiatrist putting his foot down with Brennan... People don't stand up to her like that very often, and I thought it was a really good scene, with a man standing up for his profession and his livelihood. I'm glad somebody alerted her to the fact that she can be kind of a bully, since Sweets' little comments never seem to get through to her :)

Anonymous said...

I knew I wasn't going crazy!! I'm glad other people are noticing DB acting off... I really hope he's okay, or that he starts getting it together, because the show's energy is really suffering without his special Boothy exuberance :\

This was a pretty Booth-lite episode, which put the weight on some of the supporting characters, Sweets in particular... and, say what you will about Sweets, but I think he was one of the bright spots in this episode - between the bungled plot with Vaziri, and DB's limp line deliveries, Sweets was the only character that got a smile from me last night.

I do agree that he could have handled the scene at the end with the mother better, but breaking news like that is usually a task that falls to Booth, so maybe he just hasn't had the practice :]

gabriel said...

I agree with most of you commenting on the weaknesses of this episode, won't be a favourite with me either. The only scene I'll probably remember from it standing out was the one where Brennan gets lectured on how hard it is to work in an asylum for a psychiatrist AND realizes it + apologizes.
I know faith is an interesting thing, but in this episode I felt that Booth's was really bordering on superstition and had no weight, and there really was not much to defend from Brennan's comments. It was actually boring and for me, disappointing even. I hope Booth won't lose his faith now too. I liked him being a firm believer in God. Don't need to give up that to come closer to Brennan.
Well, I've only watched this epi once, so I might have misunderstood things but that's how it came across on first sight.

Kate said...

Meh. Good guest acting, but very messy writing. I absolutely agree that the case was all over the place, with not much effort to tie the clues together. Why did his brother put his shoes on him after he was dead? Who told angel girl that he was dead? What kind of doctor doesn't notice when their patients on heroin? Things like that were driving me crazy all episode long.

The Arastoo plot takes the cake for outrageously bad and unbelievable plot development. Why is Cam, ex-NYPD, under the impression that all Muslims are *maybe* terrorists? It is beyond offensive and patronizing. I feel like the writers think they are "raising awareness" but NO ONE in the real world thinks like this.

Arrrrgh. This episode has made me grumpy and I think it made the actors grumpy to as most all of them were just phoning it in last night. Hard to blame them, though, given the caliber of script they were given.

Anonymous said...

I so agree with Christana Feb 4 9:pm.

Every other episode she seems to flirt with another man. Make no mistake she was FLIRTING. First Hacker and now Womack. It seems to me that she will go out with anybody, no matter what they look like. All a man has to do is show an interest in her and she gets all google eyes. Neither of these two guys are remotely attractve. As a person on another thread said, she has low self esteem.

brennanite said...

B&B are growing closer. In the final scene, they had an in-depth conversation about the core of their beliefs WITHOUT any conflict. Boring perhaps, but also a really notable change from the way they used to talk about these things. There was always this distance between them before, which created a lot of exciting sparks. Now, there is less distance and more intimacy. It feels real to me.

I actually like the Aroostoo character and the plot line. People seem to be under the impression that Cam and Hodgins reactions are unrealistic, but I really don't agree. I think the Arostoo's of the world put up with a lot of this sort of thing, and I like that the writers are trying to show it. It is worthwhile to illustrate how mostly smart and reasonable people can be quite racist at times. I was particularly struck with how powerless Aroostoo was to clear things up. He really had to push in order to get Cam to listen to his explanation. If he wasn't so perceptive and sharp, that misunderstanding probably never would have been cleared up. What normally happens, is these misunderstandings just fester and then when hiring time comes around he ends up getting passed over for the job because no one is quite comfortable with him. They choose someone who "fits" better.

Anonymous said...

Did anybody else also noticed brennan holding on to Booth arm... Just like she did in last seasons finale when they checked out that dead guy in the bathroom. Or is it just me seeing things..

Amanda said...

Is it possible that DB is just worn out and not sleeping/eating well from having a new baby in his life?

Anonymous said...

I thought this episode was OK I have seen much better I am slightly concerned with the Aristoo Plot line and in some ways I find it extreamly rascist and in others quite realistic. This plot line is showing for me that even the most intelligent people are nowadays jumping to false conclusions regarding others of different faiths in a way we may not have in the past. however I think they should change the record beating us over the head with this is getting dull and killing off the character without giving him a real chance.
The case was disjointed and frankly not that great. The episode was Booth Lite however is he not directing the 100th episode and he took time off in the past to prepare however please someone tell him to gain some weight just a wee bit he does look ill however I dont think that has anything to do with the spark that he has seemed to lose I honestly think he is playing his part however they need to move the B&B situation on at a faster pace before the friendship goes too far - as someone who knows that there is a point you go past and without admitting to your feeling before that point you become friends with too much sexual tension - so please Hart move them forward even just a kiss in the heat of the moment. the best part of the episode was Hodgins whacking himself with that weapon and the car scene with the joking around with the GPS Booth so had a look on his face I am going to watch this again sorry for the book.

Shep said...

I thought this episode was all over the place, too. It just didn't flow well. I did like the B/B scene at the end but I was dissapointed in the lack of Booth. I agree with everyone who has noticed a change in David's acting. It may be something to do with DB but I couldn't possibel know. I do however think that it's at least partly due to the script. They just don't give him the fantastic Boothy lines he used to get.

Not a fan of the spookyish music and very convenient thunderstorm plus lightning during their first visit to the mental asylum.
The weird cases are starting to grate on me now. Whatever happened to 'Man in the ...' or 'woman in the...'. Even the titles of earlier episodes showed that these were real people. Now, we're just getting 'hey look, this body has horns! This one is melting! This one's been splatter-painted all over some cardboard!'. I think they could have done this episode really well if they focused on the issues surround mental patients or even issues about religion & evil, which would have made the ending scene really good. I did like the basckstory they gave Vasiri but it could have been expanded upon so much more. They dealt with the terrorist thing brilliantly in 'Man in the SUV' but they could've taken it in a different direction here. I now want Booth and Vasiri to meet, actually. I think they could get on really well.
I was annoyed with some of the stuff we got here, like Sweets telling Neal's mother everything. I also wnated Angela to actually handle the painting - she is an artist after all! There's such a big difference betweeen seeing a photo of a painting, and the actual work! And if she had handled it, she would have noticed the thickness in paint immediately - it would also have been thick all over, not just in one section, because there was a whole other painting underneath!

ceecee said...

This episode was OK, but I would have something more special for winter finale.
The ending seemed to reflect Brennan actually sharing her feelings in a sincere manner, and I can't remember too many times when she has a conversation like that....like normal people do. I liked that scene because of that; however, I am still hoping for more flirting and touching between the two of them.
Hodgins was so funny hitting himself, etc.
I agree there was too much going on in this episode.
I, too, miss the old Booth. DB is a great actor, and I always marvel at all the differen expressions he comes up with and....that smile!...we haven't seen those smiles and expressions lately. I'm convinced it's the writing and direction he's being given. Just because someone is in love doesn't mean their personality has to change.
Unlike others, I did not enjoy the scene with Brennan and the doctor. It made me uncomfortable as I was embarassed for her and thought he was too heavy handed about it. Her comments about psychology in this episode seemed a little forced to me anyway.
So cute the way she held onto his arm while standing at the window.
Two months is too long time to wait for my favorite show to return.

Anonymous said...

I think it was alrite episode... Nothing amazin. I still miss that brilliant writing. I still miss the show I did fell in love with. So much was said here beforehand, I try to keep it short. One thing that came to my mind as soon as they mentioned 'Looney Bin'... Zach. I did think it creepy with the rain and screams and all, and to imagine him in a place like that - 'heartcrushing'... So much for writers to 'play'. Just a thought.

Mike said...

I've noticed the way Booth is acting finally as well too. I'm starting to wonder if we're being set up for a relapse of Booth's brain troubles. If they are, I hope they don't go the soap opera route with B&B confessing their love for each other not knowing if Booth will make it through. Another reason maybe he's literally love sick over Bones. So close yet so far away kind of thing.

As far as the episode went, eh I couldn't get into it. I for one would have loved to see why Brennan was driving instead of Booth, (although considering how Toyota's week is going, might not be a good thing lol.)

I like Aristoo, but yea treat him as a man and a person instead of a stereotype or just as a ethnic person.

As far as Brennan flirting with yet another guy in front of Booth, she seeks the attention and approval of every guy except for the one who accepts her as she is. Maybe she's doing it to get Booth's attention, but again going back to Booth lethargic appearance and demeanor, but it's backfiring on her because he views it as confirmation of what he told GG about Bones not loving him back.

Of course to me, Bones wanting to check out the shock treatment facility with someone she's never EVER met is pretty stupid on her end and another example of how she can be too trusting sometimes.

Lucy said...

i think the high school episode will be awesome. the episodes where people make assumptions that they are together always seem to have alot of sexual tension. i think everyones being a little too rough on DB, i mean he is under pressure and its not easy being an actor and having a family. every one goes through a little rough patch at some time, he will pull through.

i still miss kick ass brennan. she used to be very conident, now she is almost shy.

i dont know how i am going ot wait 8 weeks!!!!!

Anonymous said...

Well, regarding the Aristoo plot-line, that seems to have left a lot of people unhappy. I think we need to factor in what has happened in the Jeffersonian.

I think they all WANT to trust each other, because they respect their achievements and intelligence, but you have to consider the Jeffersonian is really FULL of people who are not who you think they are. First of all, Zack. They all still think Zack killed the man, btw. It's only us in the audience who know that is not the case. Would that make you paranoid if your loved co-worker ended up being a murderer? Would that not make you hesitant to trust others?

Then, we have had two other episodes that showed some of these brainy doctors are capable of deceit, murder, infidelity, etc. I know that would change my own perception of people.

Anonymous said...

Overall, the episode was fine, even though there were some strange things, as you all have said.
I wondered another thing...I mean, they went to a loony bin, they actually talked in a not so nice way about the patient, and no one said anything about Zack? It seems everybody has forgotten about him.
I also didn't like that they dropped the plot of Zack being NOT a murderer, and Sweets knowing that...I hoped they followed that path too, but if it hasn't happened in 30 episodes, I think it will not be mentioned again at all.

Lerato said...

I must say about the whole sexual tension (or lack of it as many argue) isn’t how I see it. Yes I believe that Gordon Gordon was speaking of Booth, he was always the one who got completely amazed and speechless with sudden closeness (remember the scene in the vault in season 4 when he thought there was a movement activated bomb? It was Bones who laughed the way out of the situation, and so many other priceless scenes in which they are inches away). He was the one who got more embarrassed with the mistletoe scene. He also decided not to have relationships with people he works with, because of what happened to Cam and Bones knows this. To keep it short…
He now acknowledges what he started feeling too long ago (I can’t remember him not being jealous of any of Bones lovers) and I agree with some, that unless one is sure that his best friend is in love also, the sexual tension doesn’t rise. On the contrary, especially when you are too afraid to lose what you already have (second best is always better than nothing). Booth has been more conscious of his actions and speeches, he doesn’t want Bones to find out what he feels because it may jeopardize what they have. But the sexual tension is still there, it’s just much more subconscious. Booth is too self-conscious to act as he used to or to speak as he used to. He didn’t know what to do at the museum scene when she was fixing his lace, touching him, so close to him. He also didn’t know how to react when she was undressing him (ya she really needed to take all of his clothes, sure, that was how she was rationalizing it).
That is exactly one of the problems, unless she realizes she loves him and shows clear signs of it, showing what he feels now would just drive her away because she is too afraid of what that would mean.
Bones has never been so touchy as this season, on this very episode she grabs Booth’s arm as if trying to protect herself from the looks of the so called angel (sorry but that screams as a subconscious excuse to touch him, especially because it was a silly reason), she is the one now with all the amazing speeches (amazing for her, as she will always have too much difficulty to show her vulnerability never mind express it) as if trying to show especially Booth she is not a cold icy woman (she was writing the book when he was in a coma, so the whole volcano thing was all her). She is now the one that lies for Booth’s sake.
The sexual tension is there from both sides, but it is being so repressed (Booth because he is afraid Bones will find out, Bones because she doesn’t even acknowledge to herself how attracted and in love she is, so she has to bury it deep inside) that if these two characters really existed for real, then I can assure you it would come all back in very hot dreams. Which, of course, Bones would always rationalize as being pretty normal; “it’s a biological or anthropology thing”. The same reasoning she did when she asked him to be the father of her child.
The truth is Bones has always backed away from all of those that got too close, Booth has managed this with much effort and Bones was involved without actually realizing it, now it would hurt too much to lose him. That is more than evident with what happened when she thought he had died or when he thought he was married to her.
The whole idea unsettles Bones, she doesn’t understand it, so she runs away into herself and her work. She truly doesn’t understand how someone could really love her, that love could be for life and it will be difficult for her to accept that she can lose control and acknowledge what she is so afraid of feeling, to trust another one so deeply and that it’s possible that it would be reciprocal.
And what is with the smiles she gives Booth and the efforts into making jokes (some so naïve). Unconsciously she is doing everything she can to please him as if trying to prove she is really a hidden volcano that he can love. Sometimes one can lie as much as one can to oneself and actually be truly fooled but our subconscious plays its tricks.

Lerato said...

I must say about the whole sexual tension (or lack of it as many argue) isn’t how I see it. Yes I believe that Gordon Gordon was speaking of Booth, he was always the one who got completely amazed and speechless with sudden closeness (remember the scene in the vault in season 4 when he thought there was a movement activated bomb? It was Bones who laughed the way out of the situation, and so many other priceless scenes in which they are inches away). He was the one who got more embarrassed with the mistletoe scene. He also decided not to have relationships with people he works with, because of what happened to Cam and Bones knows this. To keep it short…
He now acknowledges what he started feeling too long ago (I can’t remember him not being jealous of any of Bones lovers) and I agree with some, that unless one is sure that his best friend is in love also, the sexual tension doesn’t rise. On the contrary, especially when you are too afraid to lose what you already have (second best is always better than nothing). Booth has been more conscious of his actions and speeches, he doesn’t want Bones to find out what he feels because it may jeopardize what they have. But the sexual tension is still there, it’s just much more subconscious. Booth is too self-conscious to act as he used to or to speak as he used to. He didn’t know what to do at the museum scene when she was fixing his lace, touching him, so close to him. He also didn’t know how to react when she was undressing him (ya she really needed to take all of his clothes, sure, that was how she was rationalizing it).
That is exactly one of the problems, unless she realizes she loves him and shows clear signs of it, showing what he feels now would just drive her away because she is too afraid of what that would mean.
Bones has never been so touchy as this season, on this very episode she grabs Booth’s arm as if trying to protect herself from the looks of the so called angel (sorry but that screams as a subconscious excuse to touch him, especially because it was a silly reason), she is the one now with all the amazing speeches (amazing for her, as she will always have too much difficulty to show her vulnerability never mind express it) as if trying to show especially Booth she is not a cold icy woman (she was writing the book when he was in a coma, so the whole volcano thing was all her). She is now the one that lies for Booth’s sake.
The sexual tension is there from both sides, but it is being so repressed (Booth because he is afraid Bones will find out, Bones because she doesn’t even acknowledge to herself how attracted and in love she is, so she has to bury it deep inside) that if these two characters really existed for real, then I can assure you it would come all back in very hot dreams. Which, of course, Bones would always rationalize as being pretty normal; “it’s a biological or anthropology thing”. The same reasoning she did when she asked him to be the father of her child.
The truth is Bones has always backed away from all of those that got too close, Booth has managed this with much effort and Bones was involved without actually realizing it, now it would hurt too much to lose him. That is more than evident with what happened when she thought he had died or when he thought he was married to her.
The whole idea unsettles Bones, she doesn’t understand it, so she runs away into herself and her work. She truly doesn’t understand how someone could really love her, that love could be for life and it will be difficult for her to accept that she can lose control and acknowledge what she is so afraid of feeling, to trust another one so deeply and that it’s possible that it would be reciprocal.
And what is with the smiles she gives Booth and the efforts into making jokes (some so naïve). Unconsciously she is doing everything she can to please him as if trying to prove she is really a hidden volcano that he can love. Sometimes one can lie as much as one can to oneself and actually be truly fooled but our subconscious plays its tricks.

Cindy B said...

This episode was average at best(and that is being kind),because it was DB/Booth lite. When he doesn't have a prominent role I rapidly lose interest(HE IS SO YUMMY). The favorite part of the show for me is when Booth is being hard ass in questioning of suspects. This role is now being given to Sweets. For God's sake this guy is a Phycatrist and not a trained FBI agent. Now let's get to Booth and Brennan. It seemed in the last few episodes that Brennan was so in love with Booth. Does a woman who is in love with a paticular man, get so horny when any other man even smiles at her. I don't think so. As long as people watch, HH and the writers will continue to give you false hopes. I have watched this show from the pilot, and I know that nobody cares , but I am done. OUT!!!!

Jeannie said...

Random, but I thought it was too good for not sharing. Somebody on a German fan board pointed this out and it is truly funny - as soon as Booth and Brennan start talking during the final scene, everybody around them starts leaving the diner immediately. Um, were they closing up? ;-)

blogtastimater said...

i thought the insane man/doctor was super interesting for sure, a great actor, and I loved Brennan's speech at the end. as far as the sexual tension and the wooing... i feel like the progression has been
Season 1: lots of tension and hinting but really its all fun, B+B bond over a lot of intense experiences in the case work
Season 2: same as season 1 but a bit more marriage and sex friendly all around, for everyone, very strong on team-building, B+B talk about how people who work together shouldnt date, sully...
Season 3: really stong team-wise, booth and brennan really become family to one another, kiss
Season 4: an incredible amount on flirting, overtly... bonding... fun. the tumor and the shared delusion... seemingly a kind of climax and revelation

and, finally,

Season 5: B+B's closeness and feelings for one another is responsible for getting them on the same level... they stop being so different from one another and help one another become more balanced and understanding, thus eventually eliminating the thing that REALLY keeps them from getting together: how different they are when it comes to how they see dating, love, intimacy, etc

i think its awesome, and brennans speech was amazing.

the aristood stuff, the case stuff, not so strong. i love Sweets though so he can be around all the damn time!

eva said...

this episode was beyond meh. to me it was probably one of the worst episodes ever. started ok, but at the same time I felt like I was watching an episode of Supernatural. and considering the huge break ahead, they could have made a better cliffhanger, like Fringe did. one that makes you want to see right away what's next. I was kinda disspointed but hopefully the 100th epi will make up for it

traveler72 said...

Based on Bones's comments at the end of the episode, I envision an angle where she does finally explore religion but more of the Eastern variety, particularly Buddhism which is right in line with cause and effect being simultaneous. It wouldn't be much of a stretch with her educational and anthropological background, plus her experience in martial arts which is a discipline requiring meditation and belief in your internal power. It would be cool because it would be a way of bringing her and Booth closer without sacrificing her scientific ethic, since Buddhism deals with reason and truth through trial and proof. Thoughts, Mr. Hanson?? :)

Anonymous said...

Prius product placement was an epic failure, Bones explaining to Booth that acceleration is controlled mechanically and not by voice (talk about all Prius brake problems related to computer) was pathetic.

P.S. Do they think that Bones viewers are THAT stupid to buy this? Show me how Bones is dealing with recall and enjoying its newly problem-free Prius, and I'll buy into it.

Anonymous said...

@traveler72
I think HH said that Brennan is the voice of his own atheism and he likes that. I would be surprised if it changed in the future. She might be accepting the way Booth thinks, for Booth, but don't think she would be converted to any religion ever.

Stephanie said...

I'm sure Brennan's done some type of religious exploration at some point during her educational/anthropological background. I would hope everyone takes the time to think about their own beliefs at some point in their life. She can accept Booth's faith without ever being religious. And making Brennan any type of religious would feel very out-of-character to me, so I really hope they don't go there.

I don't really think Product Placement is that big of a deal. It's unfortunate that there was a big recall after they filmed this episode, but they had no way of predicting that. I see product placement as just something shows do to get money. And more money makes for larger budgets which makes for better episodes, so I'm okay with it. Most of the time, it goes right over my head.

traveler72 said...

Ah, was not familiar with the Hanson quote. It makes sense; Her atheism is functional in juxtaposing hers and Booth's relationship for sure and I can see why Hanson and his team wouldn't want to jeopardize that. Still, their relationship is changing, and things once thought of as absolute with B&B are changing. They are both growing closer as well as growing, as any human being does over time. The possibility of a faith entering her life is a rich one and I was just thinking that, being a Buddhist myself, I saw many things in her character that Buddhism would help her to get in touch with, and still retain her logical, scientific core which is also central to the practice. Incidentally, I just saw an episode yesterday that dealt with Japanese culture and had a very Eastern/Buddhist slant to it. It's the one where they investigate the death of the sister of Ken Nakamura, Booth's Japanese policeman friend. Bones shows admiration for the many Eastern cultural and philosophical concepts portrayed by the Japanese members of the cast. Just sayin'.

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